This is the most pay to win game i've ever played

The title says it all you basically have to spent more than a thousand euro to be able to compete past rank 5 which is absurd, is this what games have come to free 2 play corporate games

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Once you figure out how a business works and that it relies on money to continue to operate you will understand.
Until then, Rank 5 is a decent achievement if playing with gold.

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to say that

seriously though. you almost always have a top tier deck that costs 5-7k dust, which is easily obtainable for free.

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I think you are playing a different game mr 740 posts blizzard fan boy,
if i wanted to discuss with forum tryharders i wouldn’t have made a post complaining about the game in the first place mr Genius kind Person

This is not business this is pure greed,dont tell me blizzard cant afford to giveaway some decent cards and still be immensely profitable long term

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If you wanted to have a point and have people agreeing with you, you would have:

  1. Been respectful towards people in your thread,
  2. Done some research about the issue you’re trying to bring to light and finally
  3. Constructed your thread better with solid arguments as well as meaningful and unbiased data.

You’ve done none of these things. And thus your posts amount to pretty much this:

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Wow, it’s almost as if this is some sort of card game where you have to pay money to get decent cards for a solid deck that allows you to reach higher levels of play.

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yes you are right but I’m afraid I don’t have time to construct a solid argument in a forum post

If i had to make a point i would ask myself and other fellow gamers

“Are these the games we choose to play?”

You see it’s just that being a WoW player since childhood hearthstone is
a really appealing concept of a card game and the fact that playing the game itself comes down to who has the biggest wallet is countering the essence of the game itself in the first place.

all you did so far was dragging a discussion onto a personal level without addressing my argument.

are you willing to discuss how feasible certain goals in HS are without paying or do you only have time for talking to people that agree with you?

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I think you are not capable to understand what pay to win means. You can get all the cards in the game without spending a single cent on it. This is not pay to win, but as i said, you probably cant comprehend it.

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Maffyswow completely idiotic claims you are making there. Over 1000 euros to get to rank 5 lol? If you just started and expect to have a full collection after 1 minute you are truly deluded. Have you considered that you are just bad at the game and thats why you cant get to rank 5?

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its a consipacy we all - evil minions of Bli$$ard - try to hide.
I CANT DO IT ANYMORE GUYS!
HS = P2W!

phew

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the fact people still spend money on this game blows my mind… i wonder how much money the tippy top of the spender have payed out on this game over years … me personally i fell behind like 3 - 4 expansions ago and have no real interest in rejoining cause in order to be the best you have to spend the best in this game… i feel bad for people who trap themselves in this game by falsely making themselves believe that is not the case.

You quit 3-4 expansions ago?

So what are you doing here?

I mean you can do what you want ofc. But when i stop playing a game over a year ago im not in those forums anymore.

And well if you want to be the best, then probably yes, you probably have to pay

Luckily that is not a mandatory game

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what is it that you can buy, but can’t get for free? in other words: what does it take to be the best (resource-wise)?

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You don’t pay money to win or progress. You pay money for diversity. The f2p model is made in term that you have to invest time or money for diversity. If you want to be f2p you have to play every day and cap gold limit every day for diversity. Its true that this will take a lot of time, but it can be done (if you have time to play that much). This will give you cca. 4750gold per month plus all free packs/cards from brawl and events.

Also a lot of cards dont see any play (except in meme/fun decks) so you can DC those if you aim for high rank.

Every CCG is expensive if you want all cards. You can’t blame a company for making a model that will bring them money. They have people that have analyzed the market and come up with the best model to make them money, but to keep f2p players in game. I don’t say that they always make good decision, but if they fail, the game will lose people and money. Then we will see changes.

Activision-Blizzard is shareholder company, private company, and they expect to earn money. We live in capitalism where every company behave like this, so you cant blame them. With any other model they will lose investors and that could lead to problems. We don’t know exact costs to maintain servers, salaries and all other expenses they have to pay every month, so we can’t judge how greedy some company is.

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Such a simple concept yet ppl fail to grasp :man_facepalming: either way. agreed 100%.

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Also sone people think capitalism is evil

haha yeah… ironic, isnt it? little that they knew, free market provides their A+ quality of life. Statistically speaking, any socialist state failed miserably.

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was there any socialist state that wasn’t a dictatorship in which the rulers lived like kings though?

I can’t think of any. and if there actually wasn’t, you can’t really judge the performance of socialism.

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Youre right about the first part but i cant figure out a single concept of what i heared so far of socialism which isnt destend to fail.

The human mind is not going to allow it.

That said maybe someobe can explain to me a docialist concept which will work

Im really open to everything new

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