Brigitte is getting a slight nerf on her stun, so that may give players some breathing space. But like Star said, it can work both ways so unless all CC actions are taken out of the game, some things just need a little coordination to handle.
That’s right a 1s nerf to her shield bash would mean the total number of stuns she can land is considerably reduced.
Most games last 20 mins, and previously with her shield bash having a CD of 5s she could theoretically land 240 stuns with her shield bash alone.
With a 6s CD on the skill it drops down to 200 stuns over the same 20 mins (That’s 40 stuns lesser). These are ofc, only theoretical possibilities however in a real game the numbers would be much much lower.
Pretty much every hero in this game has a CC ability.
Ana, Brig, D.va, Doomfist, Genji (with his reflect, can reflect back CC abilities, Eg: Mcree Stun, Zarya Ult), Lucio, Mcree, Mei, Orisa, Pharah, Rein, RoadHog, Soldier (Helix Rockets), Winston, Zarya.
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i actually vented my frustration on another thread…
but yeah… Brigitte is definitely ruining the game for me… i had recent matches where people refused to play tank when Brigitte is on the other team…
and i found myself shouting “why is she even on Overwatch?!” – she’s the opposite of fun to square with… at least with Doomfist, Genji and Sombra’s hacking felt fair and fun to play against…
Overwatch becomes a frustrating game when Brigitte is on the match… a game that i used to care a lot and follow the overwatch league on Twitch… now… i do not even know whether i want to watch one…
i just want to forget about Overwatch for a while… i am going back to CSGO and Rocket League where the games are still fun to play…
Overwatch is no longer a fun game to play nor to watch…
sorry, my English is a 2nd language, but i want to send my frustration to Blizzard – hope you guys are reading this…
you guys had a great brand… now you are F ing it up…
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I had to look up your main heroes and the way you experience Overwatch to understand were your coming from.
It appears you only do QP and play heroes like Sym, Sombra, Torb, Lucio and Rein mostly. QP is a game mode were teamwork’s the weakest and combined with your hero pool you normally play it’s understandable how you find Brig a hard problem.
I would recommend you get on YouTube and look up ways to counter Brig and play QP in groups of friends instead of soloing and works as a team. If you must solo then communicate with your team and Brig will not be as much of a pain.
I mostly play comp across different ellos of the ladder and haven’t found her to be a problem like you put it. She shuts down certain metas but beyond it she isn’t a pain because she can be kept in control with teamwork.
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i appreciate the response, but at the same time you have to at least acknowledge that i started to hate a game that i used to love and care… and a growing number of people are sharing the same sentiment after Brigitte came along…
however, i disagree with them about Doomfist and Sombra, i think that they are fair addition to Overwatch…
i can easily say that your opinion will carry more weight if you are part of the Blizzard team… but i will not dismiss your opinion simply because i feel that i am right and that you are wrong… i am a better person than that…
for your information… i DO play CP (i do not know how you missed that in your investigation)… and the reason i play QP a lot because i have other responsibilities that pulls me away from the game without a prior notice… but i do play CP… and for you to say “i only play QP” is simply wrong…
your analysis is maybe accurate at other aspects but the numbers is not everything… the experience is… the game has to be fun first…
and the first step to solve a problem is to admit that there is a problem… people are leaving Overwatch… and my comment is directed to Blizzard developing team, because i feel Brigitte is simply ruining the game for me…
and God knows… i tried and i tried…
you can tell me to do this and that but then… Overwatch would be a chore… a homework… when i just wanted to have my 10 minutes of fun on Overwatch, like many people do…
i do not intend to go pro on overwatch, i just want to have fun before i go back to work at the hospital and meet my patients…
something that i hope that you’d understand… not all people inspire to be like you…
i loved Overwatch when it came out… but now not so much…
and i honestly feel that you won’t say anything that can change my mind… and you picked the worst moment to know me… when i am frustrated and hurt… and too eager to throw F bombs at people…
i do not have regulars whom i play with - mostly random players - and they refuse to go tank in favour to characters who move faster and more swiftly to avoid Brigitte which is why i stepped away from my Sym main to Rein or D.va lately… and i understand why…
again i am sure that i am not alone in this… i think someone from Blizzard mentioned that Brigitte will change the game… and she did…
and until it changes to something else, i do not feel welcomed anymore… i am not boycotting the game… i paid to much good money for it… but i no longer feel welcomed…
and i hope things change soon…
I understand where you come from.
You want to have casual fun mostly in QP, because of your busy work schedules, and Brig is ruining that for you.
The next time you see a Brig in the game, ask someone in your team to go Pharah, Junkrat and spam the Brig shield or around her. She will take a lot of splash damage. You could also go bastion with an Orisa and destroy her shield. Orisa is also an awesome tank against her, because of her quick rate of fire, allowing her to destroy her shield and use "halt" to keep pulling her back.
If your still having trouble dealing with Brig, just add me Starnoks#1621 and ill play with you, and show you how to demolish a Brig 
It’s easy to delete Brig in QP when it’s just uncoordinated games, and you pick her counters.
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I mainly play Competitive… Junkrat as a DPS and mainly been Rein this season.
I’ve lost around 20 games in a row, near enough, every game people don’t even try, I played Rein mostly for those games since everyone wants to be a DPS.
Had teams where no-one wanted to play a healer, it’s like no-one even tries anymore, and even I get gold for kills just by using his ranged and close up attacks to finish people off when low.
The team always splits up, they don’t work together, experienced this ‘teamwork’ a lot since Brigitte came into the game. I think the fact she’s in it is making people care less about CP.
I play at high diamond on this account, and the experience of Comp in general is way different.
All I can say is climb out of your ello and games get a lot better.
In the gold ello, I guess if you rock a Pharah + Mercy you can keep the Brig at check. Find a good mercy or pharah player and try duo your way up to the higher ellos
I wouldnt call all those CC’s. CC stands for Crowd Control and usually is referred for ana sleep dart for example or mccrees flash bang. Disruptive skills like lucios boop is more of disruption or if you want a soft CC. And sure genji can reflect a flash bang but I wouldnt call reflect even a soft CC because its way too situational. You cant on demand force enemy mccree to use flash bang that you can reflect on a target you want to stun.
Crowd controls typically any skill that causes one to lose control of the heroes movements. All those heroes have the capabilities to apply CC’s. Lucio’s boop is a crowd control ability, he can knock more than 1 target off a cliff.
You dont lose the control of you hero tho, you can use your skills to prevent that. A CC skill would prevent you from acting on, ie you cant do anything while flash banged. You have lost control of you hero. But sure you can call boop a CC if you want, I just never see people call boop a CC, because its more of a disruptive ability that could be considered a soft CC.
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By all means remove CC and we will have tanks that completely ruin the game instead
They are all heroes with CC abilities.
- Ana sleep dart
- Brig has 2 CC’s (Shield bash / Whipshot)
- D.va dive can knock person back
- Doomfist rocket punch, rising upper cut knocks a person back or lifts the person up in the air.
- Genji can reflect back Zarya Ults, Mcree Flash, Mei Ult etc…
- Mcree flashbang stuns you for 0.7s
- Mei Freeze, Ult stops you from moving.
- Orisa’s Halt ability pulls you to a different spot.
- Pharah can boop
- Rein can charge
- Hog can pull you with his hook
- Soldier’s helix rocket knocks you a small distance.
- Winston Primal range keeps knocking you over + When he leaps and lands on you get knocked back.
- Zarya Ult , holds you inside her graviton surge
The only two heroes that can negate CC abilities are Orisa, Zarya with fortify or there bubble(s).
What your referring to are stuns, which is a kind of CC. Freeze from Mei also prevents you from doing anything.
I think zaryas ult is considered as CC as well because you cant move away from it expect for few special cases. Boops you can pretty much do anything you want unless your hero has no mobility abilites and your knocked off map. Anas sleep is not a stun either but considered as a CC beacuse you cant do anything unless someone wakes you up and there is another mini “stun” in the end as well. Reins charge is not is kind of stun but not really a stun I guess. Expect when you pin someone on the wall you get stunned. Hook would be a mini stun with displacement together. Bit like charge if pinned, expect that rein has a long stun.
Stuns, movement displacement, unable to move all fall under the common category of Crowd Control aka CC.
And like mentioned majority of the heroes in this game have some form of CC ability.
They are all great to be in the game.
thanks Starnoks for the offer, i may just take on your offer in a later date…
even though here in Thailand, i connect to Overwatch/Battlenet on Americas region/account, i often teamed with non-English speakers, and it is not unusual to have player’s profile names written in Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Thai, and chatting in 6-7 different languages (less in voice chats)…
one match, i was communicating by voice-chat in 3-4 languages: BM, English and Thai (and in BI for extra credit), and there are still people unable to communicate for any number of reasons…
you have to play Overwatch in the odd hours of the early morning to get 'the real American toxic chats’ experience like we see on youtube…
i dont feel we have shortages with healers in my recent matches; but the tanks are sorely missed… after their ‘bottoms’ have been handed to them by you know who, they switch to snipers, Phara, Junkrat, Brigitte or anything other than heavy and slow tanks on CP…
and they are mostly cool bunch,
i rarely hear any toxic speech or read toxic chat unless you choose Sombra and Torb on CP, then you get these cute “WTF Sombra?! Torb?! pls change!! report!!” messages even in the first 10 seconds into the match…
the reason why i say that they are cool bunch, is that they do not dictate others to play certain characters as much or the same way we see on youtube… and i know that i do not see myself dictating others what to do…
i can only suggest that we have too many snipers (sharpshooters), or that Torb may not be the best in attacking…
and most of the time i defend others by saying, let them play the game that they paid hard money for it, or let them play what they know best… or please do not switch heroes until you used up all his/her ultimate…
like i mentioned above…
you can always suggest to do this and that… but without addressing the complaints of Brigitte being too powerful, you will have more and more people resentful of the whole game… and THIS should worry you whether you are not effected by Brigitte or not…
personally, i will not shed a tear, if she’s gone…
and it takes a lot of me to wish her gone forever…
but i can settle to have her shield bashing ability tuned down… like decreasing the effected cone area and/or increasing its cool-down time – make it more deliberate and more skillful ability…
if not, maybe allow tanks to be immune to her shield bashing ability, or make tanks’ shields to be effective against stopping Brigitte bash; it feels hardly fair that the tanks’ shields are able to stop Rein’s Earth Shatter but not Brigitte’s shield bash… and even more unfair when she counters Rein’s charge or Doomfist stun thingy or Genji thingy (too lazy to look up their names)…
it is hardly fair when she counters a lot of things thrown at her, and when changes a lot of a game we loved…
soon… people will stop caring about Overwatch…
stop playing it altogether, and some may even resort to cheating using aimbots or whatever, to squeeze the last amount of fun from a game that they dont care much for anymore…
you can waste your time giving advice, but i hope that this is the last time i comment on this matter… at least in this thread of discussions…
again… thanks for the response…
it would means a lot if you are part of the Blizzard team…
I think people would rather have good fights that are difficult for both players, rather than dying, instakilling, dying, instakilling. Sure, it can be satisfying, but to go from 100 to 0 to 100 to 0 to 100 to 0 and repeating constantly can be quite tiring compared to one actually good fight not ruined by your nanoblade getting stunned, shattered, antied, slept, frozen, pinned, etc.
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Well then you wouldn’t have too many counters to those ults would we ?
An ult that can be countered, makes it more exciting for a genji player who could successfully pull it out, and like wise for another hero that could shutdown a genji ult.
So they do have two sides to it
Well said. If doing something was easy, it wouldn’t be so impressive. I am envious of widows who can do flick headshots consistently. I know I’m barely good enough so I generally try to stick to heroes where I can perform well with positioning and use of special abilities instead. No need for me to put my teammates in a situation where they have to carry me, no matter how cool I think playing widow would be.
For example if a hog were to ult in front of a Brig, and the Brig has shield bash off CD, then it’s a no-brainer for the brig to bash into the Hog and cancel his ult.
However a smart hog player would try and bait out the Brig’s shield bash and as soon as it’s executed he could ult. Isn’t that more satisfying now ?
This game is becoming more of a proper cool down management, and predicting what the enemy cool down’s might be at 
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