i wouldv said:
Moira is high survivability, medium dmg.
Zen is low survivability, high dmg
People must be playing Moira wrong. My damage is always really good on her rofl, damage and healing that is.
Just imagine what you could do if you played Bap, Ana or Zen instead.
Sometimes you have to play a support with high survivability though.
If for example your dps and tank are hard focusing on the enemy tank and the enemy plays a genji and a tracer who continuously flank your team. A zenyatta would be dead before he kills both of them as well as ana.
Bap would have a better chance than those two but a moira can reliably manage to escape the two. If the 2 dps decide to spawncamp the supports then moira and lucio are the only ones with any chance of getting back to the team on their own.
If the team plays well together and prioritises the right targets though, then every support is a viable option and several of them will be more useful than a moira.
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100%! Itās very easy to escape and fly to safety. I come across Genji a lot so playing Moira is beneficial. Plus I enjoy playing her anyway.
100%
Job 1 is donāt die. If playing something with an escape tool is the best way to do that, then thatās the play.
If youāre mechanics are better, the best way to not die is to kill before your killed.
If you can aim, Moira should always be a last resort right now as multiple other supports will help the team far more and give you far more impact.
try shooting a moira from (medium range - far range) where she counter flanks you with just her left click. (her left click range can go extremely far)
you get no heal and you cant get away from her because she can fade wherever you go.
now you can shoot your bullets. but odds are because she flanks you.
that you already have wasted them when fighting the enemy team.
your team is occupied fighting an orisa for example for 7 mins straight.
and now you tell me 2 stupid things:
1.she rarely wins a 1 v 1.
2.she does little damage
i guess you have never seen a moira in a deathmatch mode before. otherwise your opinion would have been different.
i also like how every comment you posted on was short and not useful to any thread you posted on.
cant discuss things. if you dont care right?
Her left click is healing. xD
Iāve taken on many people as Moira by positioning the orb well, and right clicking lock on damage. She can do wonders in the right hands.
She can kill a flanker 1v1 with DMG and orbā¦ Thatās literally her job. Nothing out of the ordinary there.
Thank you for harassing again and stating the obvious. The OP said sheās OP, which in the right hands, actually is.
Nom in the right hands she does her job.
Your talking mechanics and skill, not hero power.
Moira isnāt op. She can get value if played well. Same with any hero.
You know that Hitscans exist? A good hitscan eat Moira at any range
Healthpacks exist btw. A moira without a fade is a dead moiraā¦
You know that you have unlimited amo?
The game isnt balanced for this mode but go on
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ok so in your imaginary little world. every hero doesnt reload? okā¦ makes sense.
and we are always near a healthpackā¦ okā¦ wow. i guess i never get unlucky if i enter your world called narniaā¦
she does medium damage if her orb hits aswell.
her survivabillity is high. all i have to do is hold my right click (no skill required). use an orb (hits always if you are very close to a target) and then dodge which is EXTREMELY easy to do for any moira player.
now when most of the time i play hanzo. i can hit almost anything. but when i pick something that is really difficult to hit. then it would be a moira in close combat aspecially when its a 1 v 1 situation.
this doesnt matter if she is fading near and you are all aloneā¦ you will die in secondsā¦
No? Every hero does more dmg than she has selfheal. If a moira defeats you, its a skill issue
A good moira can do great in qp sometimes.But when i am playing rein its so easy to bait out her fade with a charge feign. And then followed up with a few slaps and shes dead.
Moira is okay for helping flank people , but people have to be really oblivious if a solo moira can do massive dmg
not at all! i think you are confusing this with group skill issue rather than saying skill issue.
as i already told you how limitless hanzo can be when fighting a moira in close combat. sometimes the arrows are so predictable that moira can just zig zag dodge stuff with only holding a right clickā¦ there would be no skill issue if the group can counter with an enemy moira being played.
this would be called a group issue. when it is possible to counter a enemy moira when a hanzo would still be useful.
i dont have to switch hanzo if the group can counter the moira player.
completely agree. however most ppl in qp do not play reinhardt at all. they only play orisa/ram atm.
moira can take alot of advantages(flank alot). too much i might add in a simple qp match tbf.
They can though, if played correctly. Itās all about the DPS orb and accuracy, the way the orb rebounds, and right click. If played correctly and well, Moira can be pretty brutal to play against.
yeah but thats easy to deal with. I playd moira alot but now switced to reinhardt. But most of the time its so easy to just sidestep moiras balls. And if you know theres a enemy moira then just dont fight inside small hallways
Very true. Although I do come across a lot of people that do that. xD
Are we seriously discussing Moiraās damage? Without the orb her damage is very weak. Almost all other support like Bap, Zen, even Mercy, and especially Kiriko can take her in 1:1. The problem comes when she comes behind and shoot an orb and then damage you. But as others said - a good Moira must pressure the support.