Im confused how people keep saying mercy is being ignored, yet a character like bastion might aswell be removed cause nothing has really happened with him in a while, can we not just drop the dumb mercy requests for abit I don’t understand why people cling to this character like a winning lottery ticket.
Mercy can’t keep up with healing when you have a second healer who’s healing is low (Brig). So yeah, she’a a borderline troll pick as a main healer
People claim that Mercy is fine because:
A) Many support players are sick of being forced to play her for basically a whole year and want to play other support heroes.
B) People just do not want someone brought back to the fight after being defeated and see it as a broken ability (Rez).
While yes, the support balance changes were “successful” for bringing other supports back to the roaster but in reality it was a total failure for Mercy. Hero A from same class should not be unbalanced (or does not do its job right) for Hero B, C, & D to have a chance of being played.
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A yes there can only be one character ignored at a time.
(Mom, said it’s my turn to be ignored!!)
We would if the devs didn’t ignore us and silence us.
Because we like playing as them and main them. If you’re main became a troll pick and so useless that you can’t even play them in GM, you would want them reverted aswell.
So many simplistic and pointless posts in this thread. Most of you are just typing hot air.
Like this for example. What, so because Bastion is being ignored, we’re not allowed to talk about Mercy? What kind of logic is this? 
People “cling” to this character because she’s got some very fun mechanics to her. Nerfing her into oblivion is bad game design. Her kit has some fundamental issues that need addressing and even though most people aren’t smart enough to identify exactly what the issues are, they are at least able to identify that something is up.
This means that Blizz is failing at their job. They’re doing bad. Overwatch is a product, a piece of entertainment and when that piece of entertainment is changed from being fun to being unfun, we have a problem. A big problem.
See, you probably don’t care about Mercy. Maybe you care about Bastion because you find elements of his kit fun but maybe you identify issues in his kit? So, you go on the forum and point those issues out and try to do the devs jobs for them because they apparently are incapable. There’s nothing wrong with doing that. If someone who cared about Mercy came along and told you to shut up then they would be wrong, just as you are wrong to try to tell people who care about Mercy to shut up.
We should want all heroes to be well designed. Now, even the most hard core Mercy hater on the planet should want Mercy to be well designed, balanced and worth playing if he’s a smart boy/girl. That’s because a smart boy/girl is able to transcend the simplistic, dumbed down persona that so many of you people exhibit. You’re just so blind with the idea that “Eww, me no like Mercy coss she heal too much and got high pick rate. Pls Nerf Jeff!” See, that’s completely the wrong way to go about it.
If something is up with Mercy then you should put on your design hat, identify the problems and come up with solutions and share those solutions.
The problem here is that the devs currently have a badly designed hero and most of you have no real understanding of game design so you only think in terms of “buff this” or “nerf that”. It doesn’t work like this.
The only outcome of this is that you end up with a hero who is just ineffective at higher levels because they are denied fundamental elements that really all healers should possess. I say this often these days, but Mercy has to have a way to regulate her healing and res needs to be linked in with a skill expression mechanic. Without making these changes, the hero won’t be able to have the skill expression scope to survive in higher ranks if you balance her around the low ranks. She will literally be an “introduction” healer. A healer who works in lower ranks but one who you’re supposed to graduate away from playing when you get to higher ranks.
Some of you might be thinking this is a good thing, but it’s not. It’s a damn shame and a totally avoidable one. To have a viable kit in an FPS that doesn’t require aiming is brilliant. It is something to be celebrated and it could and should work, if it’s designed correctly. It’s NOT being designed correctly and if you’re a Mercy hater or not, you should be able to recognise this and want it to be changed / fixed.
The subject is dragged into the mud because the majority of people are just too dim to see beyond “Grrr, that nasty Mercy main is too hard! I wish they’d delete her!!”. It really is kindergarten stuff when you really think about it.
Oh I just wanna quote this guy too. A perfectly timed example of what I’m talking about. 
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I mean i main hog a lot of the time and reaper, last time i checked they were not exactly “meta” and i manage to play dumb stuff like bastion a lot, hardly the best characters in the game.
You are allowed to talk about her, but after months of complaining and crying it gets tiresome, and my point about bastion was to show the difference between you and another group of players, basically mercy players have to always be meta because mommy told them they would make it big in life I totally understand that.
But whenever people who don’t play as mercy but with or against say they are happy with her at the moment in the current meta then they are told to shut up and are made out to be childish with pathetic remarks
You need to understand that people who play against the character or with the character have just as much a right to discuss how they are happy she is being set aside for abit, I know the mercy throne is really tall and you might not hear the rest of the community from up atop your throne, but when the majority of a community is happy with a characters current state, then that alone is another deciding factor in balance, NOT just the people who play that specific character.
Want a quick example, hog one shot, nobody liked it, it was taken out, hog players got angry, yet the rest of the game did feel healthier, and as a hog main I admit it did after that change, some things you have to accept its bitter and its annoying but just has to be that way until the developer can have a reasonable enough reason that will effect the greater side of the community to fix it.
And you the holy master of game design need to understand if the majority of a larger community that are not mercy mains are not demanding her to be really changed that much currently then that is what is going to happen, there are far greater issues with overwatch right now, I know as a game design master would already know this but game design is more than pure code between characters in a hero based shooter, its feedback which is what you do in this very post, however if a greater mass of a community has a much more unified issue with a game, blizzard will focus there time onto that, hence the torb rework, that’s fresh out the stove, because there was a serious issue with that character for far longer than mercy. but if we are to move past just hero balance, we have the lack of new content which is another hot topic with the events, we have the constant competitive seasons being fairly unchanged again for longer than mercy has been. While in a perfect world blizzard would have all of these things rapidly going out and being worked on you still have to pace your development. if not things become chaotic general quality will drop and feedback will become noisy and eluded.
Shaming really, after just specifically bringing up “kindergarten” stuff.
Im very sorry mercy is meta right now, truly am, like mentioned a few times I main hog abit, to be told to switch off something I enjoy more than the meta pick is abit naff, but adapt, and remember that mercy is not the only character effected by changes to her, your mercy changes might seem great from YOUR perspective but to others around mercy it might be a step backward.
Apologies if I lost my temper or offended you in this or the previous posts.
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Don’t you dare say that current Mercy is OK. Shes a weak hopeless hero that blizzard don’t care about, its not like this isn’t the 3 or 4th time she gets reworked or changed.
Like dude i know this one Mercy one trick streamer and she thinks that Mercy is bad so trust me she is.
Whats that they are heroes with less win rate and pick rate then Mercy?
But dude Mercy isn’t the best hero in the game I can’t live with that.
(sarcasm off)
Funny thing is that Mercy one-tricks react in the exact same way when they took mass resurrection.
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Make bad youtube videos that get terrible like to dislike ratio.
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Spam topics about how weak Mercy is with her 90% pick rate at Esports.
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Circle jerk everyone who agrees with you and call everyone who disagrees toxic and a Mercy hater.
Just do like me, State your opinion and ignore this topic afterwords, no reason in getting into reply wars with people that just don’t care about anything but Mercy being N1 at pick and win rate and no need to make spam topics relevant since they will just move on to the next one.
See, this is exactly what I’m talking about.
This long arse post that you just typed out is a lot of hot air. It is literally just trash talking, and another feeble attempt to attack people (me/Mercy players), because you perceived a threat when I included a quote of your nonconstructive post as an example of why this thread and most threads aren’t going anywhere useful. You’ve also created a straw man of Mercy mains and then attacked that, which is a classic mistake to make. Then you’re trying to play the victim and attack me, toss in some insults and then include an insincere apology at the end for “offending” me, when obviously I’m not offended and it’s obviously not an apology at all, but another tool to attack.
Anyway, I understand the forum is a battlefield to attack factions that you hate, but again, that’s what I’m bored by. I’m bored by your post and how it’s basically an attack upon me. I’m bored by Wickedlike chiming in, as he’s a pretty well known troll about these parts who never has anything constructive to say either. 
Anyway, I can very easily dissect your post. It’s like a transparent window to me. You’re trying and mostly failing to simultaneously attack me, defend your indefensible position that you’ve put yourself in with your silly post, and toss in as many insults at this straw man that you’ve created as possible in the hopes that I’ll maybe get offended. This is your instinct for dealing with anyone on the forum who has said something that you don’t like. Your assume that then I will reply with a dissection of your post and then you can reply in turn and it can go on for a while till we reach a deadlock. I see this and I acknowledge the effort that you put into it. 
Bravo, except… it didn’t do anything. It was a waste of time and effort. It wasn’t constructive. It didn’t solve anything. To use an analogy; It was more playing around in the mud. 
So, if I maybe sit down with a friend in real life and have a chat about game design and balance, there will be a much higher level of respect and constructive debate going on and we can actually get to sharing ideas on how to improve things. The person opposite might not agree with everything I have to say, but they’ll at least be willing to listen and I’ll be willing to listen, and we can have a decent back and forth and maybe come up with some cool ideas on how to fix whatever problems we’ve identified. You know, it’s like an actual debate? Like, what adults have? We’re not just telling each other to “shut up”.
See, this is a very indefensible thing to say on a forum where we’re supposed to be having debates about hero design. Still, rather than accept that you were wrong, you want to engage in an argument with me. You present to me your straw man of a nasty Mercy main and point out all the horrible things that this has done and said. But, I’m not that straw man. I can’t be attacked through it. You understand?
I mean, the enemy here should be the bad design of Mercy.
We could have a debate on how to fix the problems.
We could share ideas.
We could be constructive.
Or… We could try to dissect each others posts, attack each other personally, tell each other to shut up, ectect …
What is most disappointing is that we’ll have loads of people engaging in these forum wars, but when I post a constructive idea on how to fix the problems, there’s barely anyone wanting to engage.
We’ve got scores of people wanting to fly the flag of war against Mercy mains, and we’ve got people who want to fight back. But, what I want to know is, where are the intelligent people who really want to get down to brass tacks and hash out some cool ways to fix and improve Mercy? Where’s the real debate? See, that’s what I look for when I come to this forum and instead all I find are people like yourself who want me to “shut up”, and trolls like Wickedlike.
Anyway, I await your next attempt to defend yourself I guess… I’m sure it’ll be as incredibly insightful as your last one. 
(end sarcasm)
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Well, she was the most meta pick for 8 seasons, was very easy to learn, and gave effective and consistent heals. on top of that, her mass rez was a guaranteed salt injection.
People constantly think that they would get a 5 man rez every time they used rez so this goes to show that you don’t know anything about Mercy.
Most of the time Mercy players would tempo rez (rez 1-2 players to keep the fight going in their favor)
If they would’ve removed invulnerability that wouldn’t have been the case. 
She’s an introductory character like S76, she’s supposed to be easy to learn but if you don’t know when to rez, your positioning is off, ect. you’re not gonna be good.
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