9.1.5 PVP gear changes are a joke? I've fixed it for you

PVP Arenas
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These changes are not acceptable
PVE PVP
• Rank 1 Unranked 220 233
• 1000 - Rank 2 Combatant I 223 236
• 1200 - Rank 3 Combatant II 226 239
• 1400 - Rank 4 Challenger I 229 242
• 1600 - Rank 5 Challenger II 233 245
• 1800 - Rank 6 Rival I 236 248
• 1950 - Rank 7 Rival II 239 252
• 2100 - Rank 8 Duelist 242 256
• 2400 - Rank 9 Elite 246 259

Do not get me wrong, I am over 2.4k, so it will not effect me, however my alt i’ve just started gearing is only 2.1k, i originally was going to push him to 2.4 but decided i didn’t want too and would rather keep him lower to play with friends… That being said, i am now forced to push another 300 rating on him to get BIS pvp gear?

I kind of like what you have done with the lower bracket but overall it’s absolutely horrendous that you’d make the lower ranks “more competitive” on a linear progress path, however you’ve extended the goal post while also not actually fixing anything.

The Linear rating gain IS NOT A THING! people will go up, people will come down. I could come down on my main who will be 259 and gate absolutely everybody i ever face below 1800…

On that note, What the hell about the honor upgrade? Right now 252 to 259 cost on average about 4000-5000 per piece for the last upgrade, never mind the upgrade before hand. and given Battleground ques on horde are like 5-10 minute each, It takes forever to farm this crap honor… So is my paladin going to log in at 256 and I’ll have to UPGRADE! everything again to 259???

Let me tell you exactly how this Crap system should be…
PVE PVP Upgrade Cost per item
• Rank 0 Honor Gear 170 242 ZERO RANKS OR UPGRADES
• Rank 1 Unranked 220 252 BASE LINE!
• 1400 - Rank 2 Combatant 229 254 500 honor per item
• 1600 - Rank 3 Challenger 233 256 500 honor per item
• 1800 - Rank 4 Rival I 236 258 1000 honor per item
• 2100 - Rank 5 Duelist 246 260 1000 honor per item
This means 18 item levels between Honor gear and Duelist

This means 8 item level difference between unranked and Duelist

NEXT OF ALL! THE SPEED!!!

First of all! Honor cap increased to 30,0000!!!
Honor Gear cost 1000 honor each, 2 handed weapons 2000 honor.
This means getting full 242 PVP item level will take 16,000 Honor
This means 8000 honor is needed to upgrade combatant and challenger
This means 16000 honor is needed to upgrade Rival and Duelist
This means you could pre farm 30,000 honor while leveling, Purchase full 242 honor PVP and get right in, and still have honor left over to upgrade…

CONQUEST Generation will now be 10! arena wins or 5! RBG!
That means RBG grant 110 per win
That means arena grants 55 conquest regardless of 2s or 3s!
This means you could cap full conquest gear in 191 Arena wins. Which 50% win ratio means 382 games. Right now full conquest gear would take on average 410 2s games, which is actually 820… With the changes above Conquest gear is 50%!!! FASTER!

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These changes are not acceptable
PVE PVP
• Rank 1 Unranked 220 233
• 1000 - Rank 2 Combatant I 223 236
• 1200 - Rank 3 Combatant II 226 239
• 1400 - Rank 4 Challenger I 229 242
• 1600 - Rank 5 Challenger II 233 245
• 1800 - Rank 6 Rival I 236 248
• 1950 - Rank 7 Rival II 239 252
• 2100 - Rank 8 Duelist 242 256
• 2400 - Rank 9 Elite 246 259

Do not get me wrong, I am over 2.4k, so it will not effect me, however my alt i’ve just started gearing is only 2.1k, i originally was going to push him to 2.4 but decided i didn’t want too and would rather keep him lower to play with friends… That being said, i am now forced to push another 300 rating on him to get BIS pvp gear?

I kind of like what you have done with the lower bracket but overall it’s absolutely horrendous that you’d make the lower ranks “more competitive” on a linear progress path, however you’ve extended the goal post while also not actually fixing anything.

The Linear rating gain IS NOT A THING! people will go up, people will come down. I could come down on my main who will be 259 and gate absolutely everybody i ever face below 1800…

On that note, What the hell about the honor upgrade? Right now 252 to 259 cost on average about 4000-5000 per piece for the last upgrade, never mind the upgrade before hand. and given Battleground ques on horde are like 5-10 minute each, It takes forever to farm this crap honor… So is my paladin going to log in at 256 and I’ll have to UPGRADE! everything again to 259???

Let me tell you exactly how this Crap system should be…
PVE PVP Upgrade Cost per item
• Rank 0 Honor Gear 170 242 ZERO RANKS OR UPGRADES
• Rank 1 Unranked 220 252 BASE LINE!
• 1400 - Rank 2 Combatant 229 254 500 honor per item
• 1600 - Rank 3 Challenger 233 256 500 honor per item
• 1800 - Rank 4 Rival I 236 258 1000 honor per item
• 2100 - Rank 5 Duelist 246 260 1000 honor per item
This means 18 item levels between Honor gear and Duelist

This means 8 item level difference between unranked and Duelist

NEXT OF ALL! THE SPEED!!!

First of all! Honor cap increased to 30,0000!!!
Honor Gear cost 1000 honor each, 2 handed weapons 2000 honor.
This means getting full 242 PVP item level will take 16,000 Honor
This means 8000 honor is needed to upgrade combatant and challenger
This means 16000 honor is needed to upgrade Rival and Duelist
This means you could pre farm 30,000 honor while leveling, Purchase full 242 honor PVP and get right in, and still have honor left over to upgrade…

CONQUEST Generation will now be 10! arena wins or 5! RBG!
That means RBG grant 110 per win
That means arena grants 55 conquest regardless of 2s or 3s!
This means you could cap full conquest gear in 191 Arena wins. Which 50% win ratio means 382 games. Right now full conquest gear would take on average 410 2s games, which is actually 820… With the changes above Conquest gear is 50%!!! FASTER!

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PLEASE BARE IN MIND BLIZZARD I WOULD HIGHLY PREFER WARLORDS OF DRAENOR GEARING WITH HONOR AND CONQUEST, NO RANKS, NO GATING! HOWEVER MY SUGGESTION ABOVE ARE TO ADHERE TO YOUR DESIGN WHILE MAKING IT BEARABLE AND ACTUALLY REWARDING AND NOT A CHORE

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let it go,game is in milking dead mode.

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i dont really think they don’t know how to fix the ilvl gap.
they just don’t want to fix it.
I mean sure they are apes but they are not THAT dumb

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Instead of reducing PvP gearing ilvl cap or give players 2 sets - honor and conq. They just increasing it and do the problem even more worse. Kekw
But this is good change for people who doing boosts.

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What you suggest is to make the game more fun for people.
Blizzard doesnt want people to have fun. Blizzard wants people to work.

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Trolling a side mate, we all know, that they are doing this only because they want people to play their game. They want us to grind, to pay for the sub. In their POV there must be this “almost” unreachable point.

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Only if this.

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means noone works on it?

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Please for the love of baby jesus, only make rank 9 Elite gear the weapon/Title/mount.

I got 2.1 for the first time last week, and I cannot wait to be nerfed 4 ilvl already, and have a disadvantage against 2.4 players.

I spent all last season getting pummelled by 2.1 players with rival gear, I finally arrive at the promise land and I have to prepare to get clapped all over again.

New World is out soon, right?

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Yes, 28 september. No sub fee, btw. You need only to buy the game. There is open beta at 9-12, everyone can try this game for free.

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sure? i think they are even worse than that even a dog or a pork would get that

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2.4k for Average player is too high to get BIS gear. There is no chance i would be able to get it ever… maybe 2.2k like ahcievement would be better.

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Can we just remove this crappy 30 tier of ilvl gaps and just move to mop/actual wod style.

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There shouldn’t even be ranks in the first place. 1 honor set and just 1 conquest set. Apparantly they’re still too arrogant to listen to the overwhelming feedback when it comes to PvP gearing.

edit: I actually feel sorry for casuals having to do the insane honor grind aswell, who even comes up with that nonsense? To make things even dumber, you have WQ’s that give you 50 honor. Are you for real?

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if that were the case the unbalanceness would be to obvious

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U mean the best gearing systems ever made?

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I prefer WoD style though. When they changed to resi on characters instead of gear it made PvE players way too strong in the outside world. I didn’t do arena back then, so I wouldn’t know that was inside rated though.

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Wod was good also was legion in some way all is better then bfa and sl gearing haha.

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OK, just read it. It’s a good start BUT it won’t be bringing me back. Honor gear shouldn’t require upgrades. That was one of the main complaints and it still requires an unrealistic amount of honor that is renown gated.

The main concern is that they haven’t tuned any classes specifically for PvP. I want to play MM without being ridiculed or told to switch to BM, which I hate to play.

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they actually scaled pve trinkets low in arena, also pvp hat its own stat so no mythic raider trashing you