A new low in M+

now they’ve changed the gilded crests, im done with M+ aswell, all its done it forced everyone else out of 8s into 7s now, as they just abuse the 8s to farm the crests making you forced to doing your own key all the time. which if your trying to farm a certain item, basically impossible.

about time they remove the whole tier of crests, its just creating a wall stopping progression. im 616ilvl and im capped on runic crests, cant get into 8s, cant get hero gear, and cant get gilded crests, spend the 2hrs i have a night before work, just getting declined.

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It’s always funny to hear that a huge chunk of players never gets invited to a certain key level.
Why don’t those people…I dunno…form a group with each other?

Who would carry them then?

More like “Then who would tank and heal?”

If all the player who can’t get into groups got immediately put into groups there would be about 5 trillion groups of 5 DPS.

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Dude , if nobody can get into groups then who is filling those groups with tanks ? Somebody for sure right ?

And i bet 99% of people complaining here about not geting inv are just as picky or even more when they do their own key .

Yea there is tank shortage, but unless u are aiming above yourself ( aka ilvl and rio) then there is no way people are waiting 3+ hours for dung

You tell me.

I make my own groups as tank. I have never had an issue finding a tank or getting into groups. I’ve never in my entire life been in an M+ group that didn’t have a tank in it.

Pressing the “start group” button has a 100% chance of getting me into a group that has a tank in it.

By the way I just finished Rings of Power. Tanking is back on the menu boys.

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What key levels do you push? On what class? Why complain and not just get better?

And how comes that the same trash doesn’t one shot tanks in 11? might be…the skill gap?
And I’ve seen druids, dhs, paladins, warriors, dks and even brewmasters in those keys. For them the mobs do not attack, or because we are in 11 they get bugged?

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M+ makes EBOLA look more appealing…

For the 1000th post about this… NO… Its a moronic suggestion… And you will get the SAME results you got in PvP…

PvPers had long quews because there were no healers. A solo quew did not “spawn” new healers. It did not change anything about horrendous class imbalance, or how MMR and Arenas worked. And they thought a solo quew would fix all that. Well it did not. It just made it worse.

Because healers instead of choosing who to play with got put with random idiots. And those random idiots always loose. So… now… PvPers have to wait even LONGER sitting in quews.

And now, you go to the PvP forums and they are asking for NPC healers to make quews shorter… Hilarious !

You want THAT for PvE ??? NOOOOOOO THANKKKKKSSSSS … NO… hard NO. Absolutely NOT. NONONONO…

Blizzard cannot make a system that forces people to heal/tank. There has ALWAYS been tank/healer shortage. No quew on the world will change that. No amount of rewards or gold will make people play a roll they dont like to play.

Because if instant invites is not a big enough incentive. Than what is ?

Im tired of this Delves thing. Seriously.

If you want to Delve, you dont need Myth gear. Just play delves because you enjoy them. PERIOD. If you dont enjoy M+, fair enough. Dont play M+. You dont HAVE to like it.

But for the love of GOD… stop trying to ruin the game mode if you don’t like it. Seriously…

I am sick and tired of reading people that DO NOT engage with M+ complain about M+. Im sorry. For the love of god. Please stop.

You won. All of you got Delves now. Your new end-game mode. You can stop trying to ruin M+ for everyone else.

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they wont because most humans are “sheeps” not “wolves”

and there is no point pretending otherwise.

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Oh my god! Dont do that to yourself. Do you know that nailing your balls to the floor with 9 inch nails is an option before Rings of Power? Just saying.

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15 sec on death was not necesserily.
This is going to kill pugs since you are guarantee few death in pug group.

Sheep not sheeps. Plurals the same as the singular

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More like they just want to be carried. If all their dreams came true and blizz added an automated MM that throws 4 people at you who have the same M+ rating as you, it would create the same situation as now.
A 2k player listing their +8 key would be matched with 4 others like him, just like now, since players looking for group don’t join a leader who’s lower than they, and leaders don’t invite lower players either.
People ask for such systems so they can blame blizzard for assembling a group when they get wrecked. The truth is nothing prevents them from setting their own rating as requirement and inviting the first 4 people who sign up.

The evil only can destroy great nothing new

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Look, I’m going to be as frank, and not as mean and condescending sounding as possible:

As a tank, I would effing LOVE that.

I’ve just had barely any luck with PuG healers as of late. sad noises

M+ has been dead contents for years. Its flaw is rooted in its format and content itself, not loot, RNG or rewards.

If the content itself is not enjoyable, nothing can save it. If players don’t find a game fun, they simply won’t play it. Nothing will change that.

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From the PoV of a DPS who never gets invited to groups.