Absolutely no point playing random Battlegrounds because every game is 99% premades now

thats funny!
not funny is I just got beat by you aswell on my disc in silvershard lol

GG WP.
Defeating someone in a random bg means little ofc.
I’ve met pretty much every alliance player on the forum and defeated them and they have defeated me in other rounds in return. Doesn’t mean I am better than them or they are better than me, but Bac really shouldn’t talk down to other players, call them plebs or tell them to L2P when he is just an ordinary player just like everyone else.

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Yes I had fun it was a good game. I just found it funny as I had just seen your comment here and then see this monk running around in bg lol
People who talk down like that about other players I don’t really take serious. It’s also behaviour like that, that made people flock to ss, as now they just can queu without having to deal with people like this hunter… Also the game needs casual players to survive, and also lots of new players please! We all started as casuals…
and lastly about the L2P comment. I’m always up to duel anyone and to learn;)
And many player would love to learn pvp for example. so they join a random bg to learn and then get farmed into oblivion. the only thing those players will learn then is probly to avoid pvp like the plague… wich eventually will kill pvp… 2’s 3’s rbg’s are all pretty struggling numberwise compared to the past I think or maybe just because end of season I dunno.

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Honor Levels are just a byproduct of playing so much. I don’t know if pre-made players value it as much as you think they do.
…& even if some do & we turn them off, there will likely be a different stat for players to focus on (HK’s).

I understand & empathise with the frustration of facing premades & the desire to come to the forums to vent, but when comments devolve into dehumanising diatribes & assumptions about players’ personal lives, I think you cede any high ground.

I doubt many here ‘know’ much about pre-made players’ motivations & just assume mal intent from basement dwellers, but the ones I’ve met have actually been nice folk.
Do they bend the rules to gain an unfair advantage? -sure, & that’s the issue I’d encourage people to focus on, rather than speculate about their personal lives.

If you need to be mad at someone, be mad at Blizz for turning a blind eye.

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You can’t be a willing participant in destroying a game for many, many people and still be a nice person.

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So can you explain to me how sync premading is not an act of malicious intent?
They are full aware what they are doing is ruining peoples time in epic BGs but they keep doing it, every day, for several hours, while clapping their hands and laughing because they believe they are just that good at the game.
The only actual reward they get at this point is honor lvls unless they spam it to get that % on armory.

In normal BGs the most boring ones ive ever been in (which I almost even fall asleep, no joke) is when I get into ones with a premade in them. Its so one sided that its not even fun and all I want is it to just be over.
People are also full aware here that they have a massive advantage if they stack.

People can be nice, even pretend to be nice, depending on how you act against them.

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When you do a thing, every day, every week, every year, for 5-10 years straight, you leave little room for speculation. Its a feature, not a bug. Lets not pretend that these people are hopping on at 10am to play 6 hours of premade BGs every day before their kids get home from school at 5pm and their wife gets off work and before they go on night shift as CEO of the spark factory down the road.

When you do a thing, you cast a shadow, and that shadow contains information about you, whether you want it to be there or not. Everything you do does this and while its impossible to guess what a person is like based on just the fact that they wear really clean brand new shoes all the time, it becomes significantly easier to paint a picture when I can pinpoint exactly what you’re doing for 4-8 hours of a day, every day, for years.

I don’t think you realise just how much these guys premade spam, Voi, so let me help you. You have 289 Twin Peaks played on your Monk. Thats a lot of TP. Now lets take your number and increase that by 10. We’re now just over half of what the 8th highest honour level player has in TP, which is 4172.

Think about how long it took you - the years, to eventually reach BG numbers in the 300-400s. These guys have not just one BG over 3000-4000, but every BG over 3000-4000, with some over 5000 and 6000. You’re not grasping how truly bizarre this behaviour is. Its not a hobby, its not a phase, its a lifestyle. Their entire lives revolve around the mandatory 4-8 hours per day, every day, for years, of spamming BGs in a preamde.

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They can do it for ever, if they want =P

Most boring bgs are the bgs where people join with full pve gear barely reaching 300k hp, doing 60k dmg in a time span of 10 min.

Thank god 5 mans are a legit way to play this game cause solo queing bgs is boring.

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I mean sure, some ppl need the extra boost through stacking to win due to massive advantage.
I see playing with friends and invite ppl to stack differently though.

Another example of Blizzard not respecting its players. Almost feels like the game does not want to you to do anything… arena queue takes 30mins, 3v3 is basically linkedin simulator, random BGs are no longer random, wpvp is dead and to top it off there is no shred of communication from Blizzard not to mention we have to pay a base price + sub for this garbage while other free games are much more better quality wise its like paying for an Iphone while getting a Nokia experience

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They should put in min item level in bgs just like they did with blitz. Im positive that slightly helps the premading problem some people have.

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This game for sure has one of the worst no lifer players… imagine spending all the time and effort to organize groups so you can stomp randoms and for what? there are no expectional rewards… I mean sure you might enjoy one sided games here and there but to go the extra mile and keep doing it day in and day out is just some sort of mental illness to me.

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thats not full pve gear, thats just not being geared

they rly need to put a set of activity to get basic gear when u hit lvl cap, because the level cap gear and the conquest gear are way too far apart in terms of item level

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It wont help anything in terms of the advantage premades have.
The positive would be atleast ppl wont die the first second because you have 1 undergeared healer or something.

But it rly wont change anything about the issues with certain premades.

Surely not every premade will vanish no but im positive this change will help over all.

Also no, premades that class stack and are on voice still have a huge advantage. I just hope with min ilevel, people can atleast put up a fight.

Yeah its way too big.

Some kid gets invited to a group, gets a taste of victory & keeps going back, oblivious to the cries on the forums. Someone else adopts a ’can’t beat em, join em’ philosophy…
I don’t know why people do what they do and tbh their motivations for queue-syncing is irrelevant to me.

The only thing that tells me about a person, is that they do a thing… a lot. Arguably obsessively.
It tells me nothing about their family life, financial situation, medical conditions, motivations, life goals or anything else people are speculating about.
Maybe they’re wealthy, don’t need to work & have oodles of time to kill.
I don’t think it’s healthy (or relevant) to imagine them as ’evil basement dwelling serial killers who nobody loves in rl’ -that’s just building up a strawman for people to attack that has no basis in reality & deviates from the original complaint, which I do think has merit.

So you are saying, as long as their own feeling is not of malicious intent it means its not?
Can I go and hit someone outside, but as long as I dont feel its malicious intent it means they cant say it is?
Thank you x)

Huh?
What do you think ‘intent’ means?