According to few sources and Jeff Hamilton - WoW development is halted

Because I want to talk about this and I fear that this will be used as ammunition to further decrease the already slim margin of communication we get to zero. I’m talking about this because I want to talk about it and because lack of communication has been a long time concern around the community.

Are you on a mission to engage developers more?

Are we pretending that the lack of communication has not been a frequent point of contention around the community…?

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You pay for access to the servers, which you still have.

If you lack the basic human decency and a shred of empathy, to stand with the victims, then please, by all means, stop paying, stop playing, and go away, it will be better for everyone.

That is absolutely commendable and very savvy of you to understand that the underlying issue of the miserable state of this game is the lack of engagement with the customer base.

Your arguments seems a bit on the naïve side though. Activision has fostered a community and recruitment policy that favours a culture of false merits and nepotism and stiffling any creative and innovate spirit in the company - there’s no systematic encouragement of engaging the player base or even see people as customers (they talk about user involvement and play metrics, instead of fun and gaming).

So I’m afraid you’ve embarked on a Sisyphos mission here - I would stop pushing that rock up that mountain if I were you, that is if you can be bothered to listen to such an advice :smiley:

I’m not engaged on any Sisyphus mission. I pointed out what I’m afraid this tweet will be used for. At no point did I ever contend that I believe Activision did not already foster a culture you are describing or that this tweet not being used for that would it any way lead to an increase in the communication and pushed for that. I could be described as having this sort of mission if I believed that to be the case.

Me making an observation has nothing to do with a mission. For someone who has now iterated three times that he “doesn’t care,” you sure as hell are reading a lot into an one-off statement from me.

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Is it a one-off statement though? You stated you want to talk about this, so I’m indulging you - but you’ve never explained why it matters to you whether developers are ‘talking’ to us the players/customers?

And I do care about the subject, customer engagement is very much how I built and transform companies, so the study of this subject is of immense interest to me. Right now, Activision is a prime example of how to butcher a strong loyal fan base and since I play this game (at least for a little while longer) it humors me to follow it.

I was just curious about your motivation and reading your arguments led me to believe you seem to try to influence the community to react in a certain way to encourage developers and the company to engage more - and you are even telling me that you are personally invested in this by speaking of a fear…

This is interesting to me!

How many of the victims do you think still work there?

My guess is most if not all will be long gone.

Quite a few, because a lot of them want to see things change, and don’t have many options to go either, because the same thing happens everywhere. So might aswell stick around and make sure things change, rather than try to escape somewhere which will just be the same thing in different colors.

Your guess would likely be wrong, though.

A lot of them left for sure, this is part of the lawsuit, demanding compensation for all the women who left because of discrimination/harassment.

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And a lot stayed, and a lot are yet to be employed. Making it safe for all of them, past, present and future employees, is good for the game.

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Except, what he actually said was that if a customer was more concerned about the delivery of content than the treatment of human beings who work for the company, they were enablers of the bro-culture attitude… and he was right.

The one good thing if this is true is: No 9.3.

We’ll get a very delayed 9.2 with a rushed Jailer kill scene (not by our hand, by one of the NPCs.)

I for one am happy that Shadowlands is now going to get a early termination in terms of content. Hopefully the next expansion dials things back into a healthier state.

That’s not what he said at all. He said if people complained they were enablers which is so wrong as bro culture is not causally related to outside factors.

Here’s the tweet:

If your reaction to everything going on right now is to complain that the next patch is going to take longer to release, then you need to take a step back and realize that you are part of the problem. You value video game content more than human decency and respect.

Which is true… these are the same peeps, who:

  1. Regularly turn up on the Forums complaining about inclusivity.
  2. Whine about the ‘old skool’ devs leaving.
  3. Complain NPCs of abusers might be removed, thus disturbing their historical narrative.
  4. Now claim to be the real victims, because after a couple of days focus on employee abuse (which they don’t much care about), they fear patch 9.2 might be delayed.

So, not just enablers, but massive entitlement issues too.

I’m not saying there isn’t some overlap in that crowd, but that’s still not what he said though. He labels everyone that complains for whatever reason as part of Blizzard’s problem with their work culture, which is blatantly untrue and reveals that not only do Blizzard have a work culture full of abuse and misogony, they also have a culture of disrespect towards their customers.

He basically tries to shame people from complaining about a lack of content in the game, as if we, the customers, are guilty and needs to shut up. He says we have no rights to complain and thereby demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of the dynamics of customer psychology.

Blizzard is not producing a product the customers need. This is not a public good. This is showbiz and Blizzard aren’t delivering. Instead they are living off on a dedicated fanbase and his tweet is taking that ‘love’ and ‘dedication’ for granted. He doesn’t think he needs to EARN our money/attention. He just commands it.

Therein lies the problem with that tweet - which isn’t really a problem, it’s just revealing actually :slight_smile:

He should’ve made a tweet in which he apologized to us the customers and he should LOVE and RESPECT that his customers actually bothers to complain about something - as those complaints are actually positive in nature or at least vocal warning signs that Blizzard needs to up their game to keep earning the attention of their customers and keep them convinced it is a sound priority to spend money on their product.

9.1 recently dropped and peeps are already demanding to know when 9.2 can be expected…he deffo has a point.

Subjective opinion, since many of them are loud demands to focus entirely on the demands of certain player demographics and exclude those that the complainers are not interested in… yet that focus on certain loud player demands, during the development of Shadowlands, is actually the source of many of the complaints about Shadowlands, now.

Ha, don’t expect 9.2 until atleast early next year.

No he doesn’t. People are complainig that 9.1 is just not good enough and asks for better quality content which they don’t think they are getting. Now with this lawsuit and this tweet we know why.

Customers are NEVER part of any problem. Blizzard and especially this guy needs to understand that complaining is healthy and it’s a positive thing.

Instead he could’ve said he was sorry for the lack of content, that he understood the complaints, and then asked for sympathy from the customers by making a promise to try hard to normalize the situation and do better in the future. He’s not. He just feels entitled to our money and tries to shame customers.

He’s probably just angry, but in his anger he reveals his massive disrespect towards the customers.

I’m not…so, you must be the missing victim.

What are you on about? Missing victim? Now you are just trolling. Good day to you, Mr. Whale.

are you 12 y.o.?