Activision Blizzard sued by California Department of Fair Employment

Its actually unprofessional because they talked about the case in the first place. Already trying to defend themselves while biting back. Thats just going to backfire in court.

They should have gone with a neutral response and saying everything will be disproven in court and then let it rest.

What I really don’t understand in USA law system is the fact you can “settle’” and NDA criminal cases. In my country “settlement” doesn’t exist and there is an obligation to make transparent and public all judicial decisions, civil or penal. As they are of public interest (especially penal) and do jurisprudence.
That’s very strange that you can “cover up” criminal cases like that.

Where are you from? Its the same case in germany in this regard. If one doesnt want to press charges then nothing is going to happen. Unless the state has reason to believe you dont want to sue for mental reasons (like being threatened if doing so etc). Obvious exceptions are cases that go against Country law that dont require a civil lawsuit.

Im not exactly sure if such a case however wouldnt be covered by our state in the first place tho since it would go against our constitution (not treating everyone equally, hurting other peoples rights etc etc).

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It’s a way to guarantee funds, it happens in a fair amount of countries. For example, in Spain, if you get caught on tax evasion so simply avoid the punishment by paying the state a set amount.

Not even surprised to be fair. Seen it happen first hand myself in a bigger company then blizz, in the UK though. Worked myself up to a high position in retail, always remember a conference call between all the regional managers and CEO.

My regional operations manager was female, and when she pitched an idea on the call she got a “shutup the men are talking” repsonse (20+ of the highest people in a multi billion pound company on the call). She was sat next to me and it just broke her. Seen plenty of sexual misconduct, by people who think their untouchable. Unfortunately it happens all over the world, and is a huge problem.

France. When a judicial process is going, you can’t stop it in France. It goes to its end, you can’t drop the case by “settlement”. If it is a penal case, the State is always defendor and there is no settlement possible before the opening of the case. If it is a civil case, you can try to arrange before the process begins with the parties, but if a party goes to court, there will be no settlement possible until the end of process. In France, justice is a state monopoly in this regard.
You cannot drop midway a case (and it would by very scandalous to our public opinion if it was proposed to put this thingy in the law, as we commonly believe justice is a public good matter). And you cannot hide a case : we have public websites which list all decisions of court, it is mandatory to publish them (at least in penal and labour cases).

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Bingo, companies adhere to the social norm.
Back in the days of racial seperation and the other stuff, well companies either ignored it or followed the social norm of the times.

And the reason, companies are made and run by people.

Not a lawyer, I think.

You need some very hard evidence and big brass balls if you’re going to accuse the state of wrongdoing and expect to win.

As the US poster said, they seem to have overdone a statement that was meant to reassure shareholders, and in a very unfortunate way.

Honestly I very much hope they are brought to justice for anything that disregards the safety and well-being of their employees.
Especially when it comes to protecting womens rights and the rights of minorities they need to be more proactive and ensure that toxic and abusive behaviour doesn’t take root… and clearly it has.

I doubt everyone’s going to cancel their sub but if anything i’d refrain from supporting them until this is cleared up instead of throwing money at them via store mounts and the like.
In no world is that a behaviour that should be tolerated or encouraged in any way shape or form.

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thanks for the link. Super interesting to read. Im amazed a company like Acti-Blizzard would put a statement out liek that without checking with their lawyers. If they did and their lawyers said ‘yeah thats fine’ then big yikes.

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Sadly yes. It’s crazy to think this can keep happening EVERYWHERE. I really don’t understand how this has been dragging on for so long in the industrie. It’s not like nobody reports on it, Jim Sterling often does for instance. jason schreier also.

Prolly not and you don’t need to expect that out of people. Cause we still have an iPhone which are made with suicide nets etc. The only thing that should happen is scare investors with these working environments. But maybe they don’t care as well, only about $$$$$.

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It has to be “allegedly” as the court didn’t reach a verdict on the case yet. That’s why it is going to court, where it will be proven or not.

The fact that the state is the one suing should be indicative enough that the case is pretty well grounded.

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I remember the first position I worked as a junior in a small accounting firm, the company was headed by a female and male partner, the male being the dominant partner, he gave the public impression of being a god-fearing christian man, but unironically was an absolute creep to all the females in the office (I was the one male, and I was hired by the female partner, she joked that I got in because the male partner couldn’t work out if my name was female/male), would slap them on the backside, constantly give awkward hugs, plenty of creepy movements, moving the one girls desk so it was directly in front of his.

It was all creepy.

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This part from WoWhead

" The agency alleges male employees play video games during the workday while delegating responsibilities to female employees "

This would explain why the content release is slow if only a small amount of employees are trying to do their job and the rest are useless good for nothings, it’s no wonder BFA and SL have gone down the shîtter, time to overhaul your employees Blizzems.

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But also,

imagine working there. how motivated would you be? honestly,. you can’t expect any creativity or investment from employees that don’t even have a basic thing such a safe working environment. I indeed think it’s time to cull this team. Cut out all toxic folk. And also if higher-ups knew and did nothing cut them lose as well.

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Not much different here then. If a thing goes to court then yes, it has to finish that court at least. However settlements can be done prior or after after a court has come to a verdict but one party decides to go to a even higher court otherwise.

For example for us the “Bundesgerichtshof” has the highest authority and after that one has come to a verdict that verdict is final and has to be abided. I think the only way to challenge that decision is if there is found evidence later that proves that the verdict of the court was lacking essential information that would alter the courts decision but thats it as every other court would hold no power and reject the case in the first place.

Otherwise the european court is one level above all other courts. At least for the european union. But that requires the case to have european laws involved however.

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This very realistic scenario was shown in the Netflix series “never have I ever” season 2. And also was shown in the movie Hidden figures. Of course these are based on realistic situations that happen in our real world. Kinda sad.

It’s horrible to see, it’s very hard to deal with as well. When it’s people higher then you, it can go so many ways. You report your boss for sexual misconduct, your career could be over and you certainly won’t move up higher. And they can make your life hell till you eventually quit.

I really do feel for people in bad situations like what’s happening at blizz. It’s not just a simple “just report it! There own fault!”. You can report it and it just gets twisted as some harmless flirting. My boss used to flirt with me like crazy, and made several moves on me on work nights out. If I reported that to her superior I’d 100% of got laughed at and told to man up. Can work both ways it’s not just males harassing females too.

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But what is wrong with that? Years ago I work in such a company. Blokes only. Full on banter yet everything done perfectly. Noone ever complained to HR. The HR lady, the only woman in the company, used to say that it’s her dream job - no bs, no silly complains, flowers on her desk every week. We had fun and had the job done. Few drinks after work, trips, good mates. If I didn’t move due to family reasons I’d never leave!

What is wrong with sexual harassment and pushing someone to suicide ?
Well, if you think there is nothing morally wrong about it, I guess it’s your problem. But at least know that it is a penal offense. And commonly frowned upon in normal society.

BTW if you gave me repeatedly unsolicited flowers on my workplace, I would be strongly afraid and would search another job. That’s so f’in creepy. (and it is legally harassment as it is defined as multiple unsolicited/refused interaction)

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