I didn’t get that from that post, but okay, I get that.
If you do it and get told ‘I’m not interested’, you should stop. Agreed.
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Did the female in question as for those flowers? To constantly be getting sometthing that you didn’t ask for, would you enjoy that?
This is what I said: The HR lady, the only woman in the company, used to say that it’s her dream job - no bs, no silly complains, flowers on her desk every week.
Does it seem to you as she was offended? No, she loved it and worked in that company for 35+ years.
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I think if no one oversteps certain boundaries and everything is happening in good faith there’s probably nothing wrong with it. Fooling a bit around, making some jokes. There’s nothing inherently wrong about this and I think it might even contribute to a good working climate.
But, as I said it has to happen in good faith and not overstepping boundaries. What we see in the report is not something like this. It’s malicious, it’s disgusting, repulsive and I do hope Activision-Blizzard doesn’t get away with a small fine.
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O well that’s how I processed it.
It’s about actually listening to what the female wants, not just imparting your will onto her.
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Depends on what it is.
Feel free to send me free subscriptions to streaming services, online games and whatnot.
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But if those were from someone she wanted to send her flowers? She would be offended that “he didnt send them”.
Harrassment and flirting’s only difference is the guy who’s doing it. If he’s attractive is flirting, if not, its harrassment. Thats how it is nowadays.
See, you’ve requested and given the ok, therefore, fine.
I get this, but do you realize that at that point he has an unhealthy obsession with you? Before you know it you’re asking for a restraining order etc. When someone is so obsessed and can’t process rejection it’s never ending well.
No it’s not, there’s a way to go about things without literally being so forceful.
I’m actually pleasantly surprised at the amount of people defending the flowers guy. Usually, when someone posts something that deviates from the regular mob mentality posting etiquette, they get reported to high heaven.
Glad to see this isn’t the case. I also think offering a small gesture like flowers once a week to a co-worker is in no way, shape or form harassment. I’m sure that HR lady would have told them to stop, if she didn’t like it, and I’m also sure the blokes would have obliged.
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What part of ‘the investigation lasted two years’ didn’t you understand?
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What am I even reading?
It is creepy. Like why do that, sure if you give everyone flowers, guess that’s just you being you. But why focus on 1 and keep on bringing flowers when that person wants to be just collogues and nothing more with you?
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No one is saying you have to be forceful.
I worked in an office enviroment for 3 years. At the end, a guy I knew and mentored, asked one of our colleagues if she would like to go for a cup of coffie, outside work. This is a very shy guy and to be fair was maybe a little out of his league.
The girl went ballistic and reported him to HR. He almost lost his job. Was that fair to you?
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Weekly flowers on the desk is a bit different to sexual harrasment, passing nudes and getting a girl to commit suicide.
Unless I’ve heard the full story from both his and her perspective then I truly don’t know.
I’ve had a similiar incident where to the group he was mr.shy and the girl had flamed him up for simply asking her on a date, when in reality and what she shown, was that the guy was sending her insolicited pictures constantly and saying she would be canned (she was a junior, he was a senior auditor) should she mention it.
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For someone saying other people live under rocks, you havent experienced reality very often.
You have never seen a girl turn someone down due to him being unattractive and condone the same behaviour/advances from another guy just because he was hot(er)?
Why do you take a single specific case, in which the guy didn’t lose his job in the end, and compare it to multiple harassement reports from women working at ActiBlizz? Why did Afrasiabi have to leave if there really was no issue? Do you really think that the female employee who took her own life did it because the man (or men) after her didn’t suit her tastes?
You really need to stop trivializing this issue because you and/or men you know have been turned down by women who have the right to not be into them
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Oh but if I hadn’t I’d still be fine with it.
If it’s stuff I like; I have no problem with it.
That’s my point.
Sure, I wouldn’t want stuff I’d consider inappropriate or just stuff I didn’t like.
But that’s no different whether you asked or not.