As I’ve said above. I do not condone it and I truly believe there are issues in the article, im not defending the article, I am arguing for the “flower” example that was given above.
She was the only lady in the company. None of the boys wanted to give flowers to each other. I’m gay, still didn’t want any lol Oh, she used to bake us cakes and biscuits all the time. Was she sexually harassing us too?
This is really not the time for some whatboutism in my opinion
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This makes me really sad and disappointed. What’s more - I don’t even feel that surprised by it, it seems so common. As a man, I wonder who are these people who are doing these things to others? Just terrible.
Is it? We dont know the full story, we dont know any details at all.
Why no1 came forward before?
It’s easy to just condemn someone without having the full picture and let that person suffer even if he was innocent. There was an investigation thats why the court battle will decide the outcome. Again, I am not defending the behaviour. Every male in their right mind would not defend it. But do not rush to conclusion without any actual evidence.
Take the Depp/Heard case for example. He lost roles/money and his image took a HUGE hit as he was labeled “abuser”. Yet when the recordings of Heard that abused him came to light, it was too late to fix the damage.
Und?
Believe it or not I’m from this world too.
I’ve been rejected and girls have rejected others for me. So, been on both sides.
Can it feel bad when a girl rejects you and then in front of you proceeds to accept a drink from a better looking dude? : yes. that can feel bad, but that’s part of life bro. She is not entitled to accept my drink and spend time with me so she can justify spending time with someone she’s actually interested in.
Anyway; I’ve rejected girls as well because I was either not attracted to them or just didn’t feel it. So was I supposed to accept their advances even tough I had no interest? Like what do you want me to do then?
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I am not saying that. I am saying that people simply label one of those “harrassment” and the other “flirt” just because one was from someone they were into and the other was not.
You what? How do you ever get laid if you don’t hit on hot chicks lol.
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Of course. Whether something is wanted or not is really important in contexts like these. Have to be careful while you establish if it is or not so you don’t make someone uncomfortable.
This isn’t just any lawsuit, California Department of Fair Employment and Housing has put this forth after a 2 year investigation. They wouldn’t have gone forth with this suit without some damning evidence.
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You also need to understand the pressure harassment victims have to endure on a daily basis, especially when the HR doesn’t take any real measures to help them. Coming forward when it can cost you your job, your credibility and safety isn’t something easy to do when you’re alone.
Also, it’s not because it never made headlines that none of these victims ever tried to file a lawsuit against Blizzard. Like I said, this case took two years to be investigated and has been possible because several victims came forward.
I wonder why nobody working for ActiBlizz or who has ties with them is surprised by this. Whether it’s previous employees or YouTubers, they can all confirm that they’ve heard this stuff has been going on for a long while, so stop blaming the victims. It’s tiring.
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You can ask someone out on a date, or you can “hit on” them… the two are not the same. One is also not appropriate in the workplace.
On topic… I can’t even bring myself to launch the game right now. I read this news 4 hours ago and I am still finding it hard to put into words how I feel about it. Disappointed and Disgusted are two I can come up with but this deserves much more… I’ve just not been able to absorb it all yet.
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LOL if there’s more like you we may have less lag today!
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Yeah because the game is known to have a lot of active players lately 
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No of course not. I find it a bit scary that people can’t see the difference between borderline obsession and friendly / interest. It’s often just using common sense.
O I am so over “hot chicks”. Believe it or not but they come to you, in my case it’s almost all. Others I found on Tinder believe it or not, they start talking, 99% ignores you but I never started talking, no point because 900 others are doing the same. Now that may be lucky, maybe I look average, above average, maybe I smell really good or maybe they just like my wow forum activity who knows – prolly not. Well anyway they’ll come to you. At least that’s my experience.
Well that’s how harassment works. It’s “unwanted “ attention.
If someone welcomes the attention and it doesn’t bother them. Fine.
If they don’t like it, not fine.
What is so hard to understand about that? Why is this such a hard thing to comprehend?
The issue with rushing to define it by the terms of the one giving overtures is that situations that legitimately make another person uncomfortable which they cannot stop (as the one giving overtures does not cease) are brushed off.
Whereas if an employee into another keeps giving overtures to another who isn’t into them, their disappointment in the situation is only fuelled because they continue to insist on doing it despite being given signs to stop doing it.
It’s quite simple. Nobody is entitled to anyone else’s attention and the position of the recipient is just if not more important than the one making the gesture.
Let’s say I like to give people hugs, but I like to do it in a way where I grimace whilst clenching my fists. It’s irrelevant how I intend my approach to be received if other people interpret it as menacing. And to suggest we should take my intention over their perception is to give way too much power to people intending coercive behaviour to excuse it via fluff.
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Know the feeling, whilst it feels wrong to say, I’ve been so hyped for D2:R and this just has really killed that vibe, selfishly as it sounds.
I could not have said it better myself.
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No one is blaming the victims. I dont know how do you get that idea.
The problem is that you are ready to condemn swiftly and without any regard.
What if there are innocent men in those regards? You’d ruin them too?
Gnome mains 
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