Alts/Mount farming in BFA

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Catch up mechanics devalue gear and makes players dont bother to play and progress their character becouse few weeks later everything gets faster or completly reseted so why bother. Expanaion resets are fine btw.

Accwide essences: 1. Issue of forcing people into playing multiple alts in order to make essence progress faster.
2. I spent 150h on getting rank 3 essence but my alts i didnt touched at all got it for free why? Character what i play have to go trought grind and my other doesntand thata alt. If alt can get free essence, mains should too.

If i play only 1 char and spent 200h on him that char should be more powrfull than someones 200h splited between 5. Otherwise its completly umfair to people what just want to play 1 char those players deserve to have more powerfull character if they spent same amouth of hours than others 5 alts.

Owning multiple mains also hurt player identidi and wow community as you no longer can recognize players by class thei play.

Players character invesment is gone. If you let players free swap betwen classes thanks to accwide progressionn players will stop feel investes in their characters = they are morelikely to quit game. Being able to play multiple alts do not make players play longer it makes them quit faster becouse there is 0 investment in any of those characters which mean players doesnt care about his characters = players doesnt care about game = they quit.

Thats just few from top of my head during launch. There is plenty more neggative impacts on the game. Only shows you have 0 knowladge about game desing and its impact on human brain. You aproach game like robot. You completly ignore what psychological impact have different systems on players mind and how they aproach game. Prople wont play your game just becouse they have 4 more alts they can play but experience is hollow. Creating game around 1 character with fullon investment retain players far more.than allowing them to play multiple chars regardles of time and effort. From TBC to Cata i have never quit playing mage no mater how good or bad he was. Since then with all the catch ups and accwide garbage it become far more easyer to swap my class and i stoped giving **** about what i play which made me quit activly playing for long period of time.

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It doesn’t have to be objectively unplayable, just how fun it still is to play.

I started playing a destro warlock at the start of MoP and now 7 years later when it’s up there as one of the better PvP specs (for arena at least) it was more fun to watch paint dry than play it so I re-rolled.

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Well, than it is really simple:
A: if catch up mechanics arent around, the game will slowly die and you gotta stop playing at that point.
B: stop playing right now, we get new content on a regular basis making certain things obsolete. It is part of wow and isnt going away. If you have an issue with it, you might aswell save yourself the trouble and stop playing. (this actually is a part of MMORPG game and the MMORPG book of rules, which you keep using as ‘‘proof’’)

This simply isnt a legit argument to be against changes that can / will improve the game for basically everyone.

Accountwide essences doesnt mean or equal accountwide progression to gain them.
You have earned flying once, yet you can fly on all your characters. Essences working like that would be way better.

And also why people are asking for changes is to keep playing.

So why is there a need to recognize players by a class they play? I will still recognize you on the street when you wear a dress, instead of the clothes i got to know you in.
Friend lists / communities wont give any notion about you playing multiple characters and will still know you are who you are regardless of the class.

The most heard argument by people who are asking / giving feedback to change certain aspects of the game (be that accountwide or just a change in general) is actually one that will keep them playing for longer.

Nobody is actually saying that we ‘‘just’’ want to play 1 character for 200 hours and than the other 5 were we shared 200 hours on should be just as powerful.

But some systems do hurt the experience for people because they cant play how they like because it is being restricted too much by different choices.

1 quest line gets a skip function and others are really long and dont make sense.
It is really conflicting game design.

I have never seen someone post: there are too many choices in WoW and this hurts me so i will quit the game because i can play more speccs or classes.

All of your ‘‘arguments’’ still rely on an opinion and you are against any change that will increase the enjoyment for other people.

If you dont want to make use of these changes that is fine, if you dont wanna play multiple characters that is fine.
Nobody is forcing you to make use of catch up systems or LFR or LFG or whatever else.

But once again this doesnt help your argument so you will just keep on telling us this isnt in the MMORPG Bible or rulebook and cant be done because you feel like it.

And because you dont have any interest anymore due to catch up systems is your own issue and not a gamewide issue.

I still have to see the major argument why certain things cant be changed.

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Just stop replying to him its pointless its and obvious troll who tells untruths just ignore him anyone who keeps telling players to leave is not worth the hassle . He has derailed the thread and ive flagged him.

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Yeah i just keep getting sucked into the discussion because of his ‘‘logic’’, but you are right :wink:

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Sure my logic is bad yet game developers themself agree with me. Facepalm.

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i could give you the same advice you know?

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I will keep playing even if none of the suggestions get implemented and will keep playing if they get implemented. You on the other hand seem to be on the brink of quitting because of the suggestions / ideas listed in this topic.

All the feedback / suggestions are coming in to figure out why certain decisions are made and also to maybe improve the game.

And yes, we might have issues with certain decisions but we just wanna know why and how.

However you have a big issue with catch up gear and invalidating your own efforts, but that is in the game now and wont go away or get changed anytime soon.

So once again:
If you cant deal with catch up gear, you might aswell quit the game.

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You seem got crystal ball around to read my mind, it doesnt really work as good as you may think.

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That conclusion is just drawn from your responses in this topic.

No crystal ball required.

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I have never seen a game developer agree with you. There’s reason game has next to none of things you like.

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Source?? (i know the advice was given by some to just let the troll troll, but i just couldnt help myself.)

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Do they implement acc wide essences in 8.3? No they dont = they agree with me.

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There are some account wide essences; lower the requirements for others=you have wishful thinking. But hey if you want to believe they agree with you… lol.

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Or they didn’t do it for other reasons (might be too big thing effortwise to implement into expansion that is soon going to end, for example). Looking at all alt friendly changes that they are promising to Shadowlands it appears to me that they think quite differently than you on this alt issue. But only they know for sure, we can only guess.

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Real talk, Soundless could do with a better respawn time and this is coming from someone who has the mount. I still think Paragon mounts have been the least fun for me though, especially as they lied about BFA not having any. :rage: (Seriously, whoever is responsible for that, bad word you)

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My eye starts twitching, when i hear paragon and mounts in same line…

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Rerolling is fine but it has nothing to do with having 10 alts. Gameplay of a spec basically changes with new expansion and then it is the same. You see that playstyle at the beginning of expansion and you got plenty of time to choose which class to play. Having 10 alts playing them all has nothing to do with rerolling. If you want to see gameplay of each class in next expansion just level it up to max level and choose your main. No need to actively play all those alts, farm essences, azerite power etc.

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Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts! Paragon mounts!

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/collapses under her desk

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