Last time i heard, was that both factions cried out about WM in the maw. Being picky doesn’t make this “horde bias”. The poster just conveniently left out that alliance cried just as hard.
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Reading is difficult isn’t it? Never said the Horde is that much different. But the Alliance does it to complete a bloody quest.
because that’s how entitled US mods and casuals are. They flag topics they disagree with, and these topics are locked within hours.
For e.g. if you repost OP , this will be flagged within 10 mins, and removed within hours , reason- people found this upsetting. :))))
Anyway, all topics are deleted now. Pretty much people complained about this change, that horde cried and this was HOTFIXED within days, because oh wait. - TURN OFF WM does not apply for their pet faction.
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Why wouldn’t Horde get attention? What the heck is the point of playing Alliance anymore anyway. Just delete them and nobody would feel bad.
I noticed the buff when i left the safe zone and just chuckled.
I think it’s a matter of principle. WIth this Hotfix Blizzard plainly says that they will step in to prevent you from being killed in certain situations that could be perceived as “unfair”.
OK, so how about giving everybody 10s of invisibility whenever they leave ANY safe zone? Or land at a flightmaster? Or use a teleport? What about being placed in a WM shard where you are the only player of your faction? What about an entire raid of the enemy faction phasing in right ontop of you out of nowhere?
Are any of these situations “less unfair” than exiting this particular safe zone in the maw?
I don’t think so.
Edit: I did not consider the implications of losing stygia and the different rezz behaviour of the zone. HOWEVER i would still argue that if you enter the Maw with WM enabled YOU should have considered this. It is part of playing this zone with WM enabled.
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I am not talking about gankers, I am talking about hypocrisy of certain Horde poster who are quick to adopt a “pull yourself by your bootstrap” mentality that would make an ancap blush when talking about pve imbalances but require big daddy blizzard interventionism and talk about structure issues like incentives the second they are the one in troubles.
"You can’t find a decent raiding guild ? Well make one yourself, be the change you want to be. "
To that I reply, “you are getting camped in the Maw ? Well make a raid ofc.” And if you can’t it’s just a participation issue.
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Oh, and I’m sure you can give examples of such people?
Or is it just “the Horde players” doing it?
Riiiight, and remind us again which faction it was that whined so much about warmode that they had to give it 3 times the benefit at 30%?..wasn’t horde anyway!
Don’t burst his bubble…it’s “horde bias” 
To feed you kills to complete your quest? Pass.
You are already an honorless target any time you do any of those. Which will discourage people to camping those spots for honor or pvp quests. People still do it but there is already a system to combat that.
Go check any thread talking about faction imbalance you will find a Horde of posters clamoring about participation issues.
The bonus is calculated based on numerical advantage, the more outnumbered a faction is the larger the bonus automatically, if somehow the Horde was one way outnumbered they would get the bonus and AOO. It has always been this way. Blizz isn’t checking the forum and be like “oh damn the Alliance sure is complaining a lot, better up the wm bonus” lol.
Dw, I will get my free 500 animas every week either ways 
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Got any source for those claims that all the developers play as Horde? or is it just so terrible for you that some Developers do play Horde, or even worse, shock horror, that they play both factions?
Oh my…does someone really have to sit down and explain this to you?
OK, You know the Statue of an Orc in Blizzard HW in California, that’s good. Do you know they also had a statue (I use past tense as they closed it down) of Kerrigan at their Versailles office, and one of Arthas Menethil in Taichung in Taiwan. It actually looks pretty cool…
We’re -humans- damn it! If we see a Human statue we expect it to be a famous person, or commemorative of a real life event. This is a -Fantasy- game, so of -course- they are going to use a statue of an Orc, as Orcs vs Humans was the initial premise of the game!
So yeah, we have three statues, (Oh, there is also one to Jaina as well, also a Night Elf, Dwarf, couple more Orcs)
One Human, one Human turned Zerg, and one Orc.
What was the point again?
So…somehow when both Factions complain about something and Blizzard alters it, and one American with no clue about the process behind it makes a thread on a US forum, this suddenly transmutes into Blizz favouring the Horde?
Can we just get that on record yeah? When Blizz make a change both factions complain about that is Horde bias?
Because that isn’t saying good things about those who favour Alliance, and kind of is reinforcing the stereotype that they/we will whinge about anything at the drop of a hat.
Sound advice. Advice I have taken to heart. I got sick of getting ganked by outnumbering Alliance Killsquads.
Yeah, was pretty terrible for both factions. Hellfire was especially rough on Horde side, as Thrallmar was just easier to camp.
So yeah…what was that again?
That would indeed be a first…
Grow up.
Can I get an ‘Amen’ to that!
So what both Factions did then?
Let me know when this babysitting starts. I’d quite like a 30% bonus for being outnumbered in my Warmode Shard, thank you very much, or is that just a special present the Alliance get for outnumbering the Horde?
I think we are…just not in the way you want us to think we are…
Why is this not a surprise, almost as if there were some hypocrisy at play here, but …surely not?
Do you need to nip to the shops and buy some more tinfoil?
No. Both Factions complained and it was Hotfixed within days. Implying they have a pet faction is pathetic and makes the Alliance look bad. Stop making the Faction I play for 50% of the time look bad, thank you very much, I do not want to be associated with whingers who believe the Dev’s actively hate them, as that is a puerile and ridiculous notion.
No thanks, I’m quite fond of my Alliance characters, especially my Draenei and Gnome…
Come on. Admit it OP, this was a swing and a miss, both Factions complained about this. Some American made a thread, and somehow this is ‘Proof’? Good Gods…you know this is a nation that voted Trump into power, don’t you? A man who thinks Stealth Fighters are actually invisible and the only reason he can see them is because he is President?
Come on, why would you take some random American poster’s words as proof of anything?
You are rather Ironically 100% incorrect. The Warmode bonus is applied per Region, not per Warmode Shard. It is perfectly possible (and has always been the case) that all the old RP Realms, having their own Warmode shard, are heavily Alliance dominated, more than 2:1 odds, and yet, because the bonus is regional, they still receive a 30% bonus, whereas the Horde, who are vastly outnumbered, get 10%
You may want to revisit your statement.
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Yeah and this whole situation really proves that they were right all along, doesn’t it?
Turns out the alliance does have a ton of players. Enough to take over several shards of the maw. It just means that the Alliance is only turning it on for their wellfare quest and then turning if off again.
Either way participation theory proven!
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If you want to make a point, you shouldn’t insist that others prove it for you.
Nothing wrong about my statement, the Horde does outnumber the Alliance. You may end up in an Alliance dominated shard but you are way more likely to be in an Hode one. Remember bfa when wm was basically hordemode ? When the dev themselves admitted they screwed up shard balance ?
The fact that rp realms still get the 30% bonus is another thing completly, Alliance in AD never asked for it all they wanted is to not be sharded with other realms for rp reasons, blizz decided to leave them the bonus because they made it region specific and couldn’t be bothered (or maybe can’t at all, I am not a tech guy) change it just for rp realms.
It doesn’t take much to take control of the maw, I did it with like 10 people once. The Horde just never tried to push us out, 10 randos all from different realms aren’t going to form a mythic raiding guild. Not my fault if Horde has a wm participation problem in the maw.
8 posts in you already have a horde saying “just turn wm off” lmao. How the tables turn.
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And now show me the post in which that same player complained the problem himself.
You got echolocation powers from being so blind ? The topic of faction balance has been done to death here and everytime we hear the same arguments:
“Alliance is more casual”
“It’s a participation problem”
“Nothing Blizzard can do”
“Just make your own group/raid/guild”
You are just arguing in bad faith if you refuse to recognise this is the response of the average horde posters to Alliance issues on faction balance.
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I did a topic about this exact same chock point when it was release.
You know what people said?(horde included)
IMAGINE COMPLAINING ABOUT WARMODE! JUST TURN IT OFF! 
Horde proceeds to complain…
Nice job horde! hahahah
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