Fair enough, the idea is that if you buy game time, that is that, you can’t accidentally forget to cancel anything, it’s a one time payment… a sub is well… a sub
Edit.
Sorry about being a bit agro with my post, it’s just annoying to see people saying this on repeat, and saying bs like blizzard wants to force us to be subbed for longer ect… when in reality, if you are subbed, nothing has changed.
Saw this come up on my twitter feed today and I do wonder
It’s easily verifiable anyway, so your comment is stupid and that’s a fact. But write whatever you want mate, it’s none of my business.
I think it’s got more to do with those games being vastly less competitive, but hey it’s just a supposition. Competitiveness creates different expectations, and when (some of) those expectations aren’t met… things go to, to quote Taliasin, sh!tshow levels. 
That’s not how facts work, which is the entire point of the thread anyway, but these arcane concepts are eluding some.
^ language again? 
Interesting. I’d like to investigate the data behind this statement. Can you please provide source/data?
Still waiting for it as well. Should be easy to provide though, such a number is sure to have caused quite a splash.
Problem is, I don’t actually want my guild/friends to unsubscribe because we’re still more or less managing to enjoy the game, even if the various ‘systems’ are pretty annoying right now.
What I want is for a quarter million players who I do not know or interact with to unsubscribe in order to send a message to Blizz so I can nod sagely and say how right I was.
Yes, most definitely. I look forward to reviewing the data when the sources are provided.
The data we do know tho…
Season 1 BFA was 13.500.000 runs in 20 weeks.
Season 2 BFA was 13.500.000 runs in 22 weeks.
Season 3 BFA was 13.500.000 runs in 27 weeks
Season 4 BFA was 29.500.000 M+ runs in 38 weeks.
Season 1 SL is currently 30.000.000 runs in 20 weeks…
So despite the doom sayers, the data shows that people are doing more m+ than ever. And this in a time where according to forums, running M+ is a waste of time.
i too would like to understand these figures a bit more. hopefully they can link the data asap for us to investigate
They expected to lose 9 million subs since Wrath?
…Great business model bro.
Do you know it also had record sales early and we have ongoing pandemy. This actually works opposite. If the game had so many runs but dropped so much in sub no. then there is clearly something wrong.
The fact that these two clowns think that I do not know what makes me unhappy playing this game is the exact same attitude that J. Allen Brack had when he thought he knew better what players wanted than the players themselves when they asked for Classic Realms.
I’m getting pretty tired of people who believe they know what I want better than I do.
Why would they commit poetry?
If someone doesn’t like a game why would they play it?
Also OP guess what, the forums are not here for you to complain. They are for us to talk to each other, only the Customer Support are answered and they don’t take complaints.
I would never play a game I didn’t like, I’m not a masochist.
Are you indirectly saying that forums aren’t meant for genuine feedback? Are you seriously actually writing off all threads as complaints?
For real, man?
What has the pandemic got to do with anything?
Yes, it COULD account for the increase in sales, but unless you can support that assumption with actual data, it’s simply an assumption.
The expansion was released in November 2020 where admittedly, the world looked like a different place in regards to the pandemic. It’s now April 2021, where the world looks a bit different, with people returning to work in offices, restrictions easing up due to the increase in vaccinations. The weather is getting warmer and people play less when it’s nicer outside. People may have bought the game wanting to try something new, only to find it’s not for them. Returning players may have wanted to give it a go, to find out it’s not for them. The Ps5 was released last year, I personally stopped playing WoW for 3 months in January because I bought Assassin’s Creed Valhalla and was playing that in my little time.
At the end of the day, these are only assumptions. You’re stating it’s worrying that people are playing less during an ongoing pandemic, but forgetting to understand there are 100’s of mitigating circumstances, other than the state of the game, that can cause this.
We’re talking about the 40% drop in subs since Shadowlands’ record-breaking launch. It is WoW’s best selling expansion and in fact on its first day it was the best selling PC game. Ever. It even beat Diablo 3. It’s sad Blizz no longer releases population statistics. They claim the amount of subs across both services was the highest since 2010, and with Shadowland’s sales, it’s fair to assume Retail was at around 6-7 million subs. A 40% decline would put this at around 4,5 million, which isn’t bad. It’ still like $60 million a month in just subs. Not counting Chinese subs, which were counted in Wrath’s 11 million subs. In fact, China is the main contributor to Wrath’s success. It’s very easy to fudge the numbers, mate.
Like… gamers are absolutely stupid. Blizz releases their highest production value expansion ever, BFA, and they say the game is dead. Then they launch Shadowlands with 2 cinematics, which has never happened, and the game is still dead. I don’t think Blizz would focus on production value so much if the game was dying because the game dying would mean scaling back the budget. Not launching your expansion with 2 fully rendered and expensive cinematics, one of which, the more expensive one, only exists on youtube anyway.
No, I am saying it directly about the EU forums.
The forum part is a lie. At least for the EU forums, devs do not come here.
No, I am saying Blizzard do not read the complaints or any of the threads in anywhere except CS and complaints aren’t dealt with there. Unless they need looking at if they are reported.
BFA also had record sales if you remember, yet the first season only hit what, 1/3 of the amount of runs that SL will.
You say it’s dropped in subs, please provide a source. Or is all you have “Forum people say so, so it must be true” Fact is, not a single one of us knows how the sub numbers have evolved so far over the expansion, not a single one of us. So making claims on something we do not know is quite silly.