Because a lot of people complain but refuse to unsub, it’s counter productive
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Because a lot of complainers have still a ton of fun in the game.
Let me gues? It is missing in yours?
I mean, sure I leave negative feedback on this forum. But I still love the game enough to keep playing it. In fact, I have even seen feedback I have given on the forums acted up on (not saying it was my post that changed the world, but I like to think that some of my feedback has resulted in changes going forward).
The game is by no means the best rendition of it I have ever played (That was BFA), but it’s still a game I enjoy playing.
If you’re really at that point where you are left feeling so let down by the game. Maybe unsubbing is the best thing you could do. You don’t want to fall into a depressing because the pass time you play for fun is stressing you out more than you’re enjoying it.
The game will continue to evolve as time goes on. New people come along and enjoy the new way the game is played.
Allright. reported.
The game is in an absolutely terrible state right now, my savior is the fact I have a lot of alts to play with so I have variety, you dont see me complain about the game much on the forums because of those alts, but if I had a single char or 2 I would complain as much as others do
Oh? I have only 1 char that i play 99,9% of my SL time. And i am still enjoying the game. Of course you enjoy other things, so we have different likes. But to make the statement the game is in absolutely terrible state right now, is quite wrong.
It is off topic though. If you were not enjoying it anymore. Then just take a break. That sounds logical to me.
Well duh I never said people dont have different opinions, but the content that is available in SL aside from dungeons and raids is very mediocre (in my opinion!!)
Yeah that is interesting since i think the raid and dungeons are very mediocre 
Well to be fair the raid is actually pretty boring, dungeons on the other hand are actually sort of ok aside from sanguine depths, that dungeon can go to hell
Well, there we go, thinly veiled PvP Whinge thread, yet -again-. Just quit, Quit and go. Don’t be that person who opens the door and goes “And another thing!..”
Just Quit and Go.
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Here’s a a few pro tips from a forum veteran on how to enjoy the forums without getting frustrated because Blizzard don’t listen to you or do the things you want them to do.
In no specific order but ordered nonetheless:
- Use the forums as a platform to chat and discuss with other players. Not Blizzard. Players.
- Don’t post suggestions to Blizzard, forget about them. Share ideas with other players instead.
- Don’t post feedback for Blizzard to read. Write compelling posts with thought-out opinions that are interesting for other players to read and encourage their feedback and comments.
- Avoid having a forum agenda, lobby for a particular thing, or otherwise going on a forum crusade against Blizzard.
- Don’t escalate your own rhetoric against Blizzard. The downward spiral into pure negative posting is quick and difficult to recover from.
People who post on the forums because they want to talk about WoW with other players tend to have a healthy forum presence.
People who come to the forums because they have an axe to grind with Blizzard usually burn themselves out through their own rage.
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Soduku then
Sorry, alway confuses the two ^^
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Yeah why even give feedback ? Why dont all the players just leave without saying anything ? Now that’d be smart right ? So the game cant evolve at all and they’ll do whatever they want
Yeah…why?
I mean, the act of giving feedback is intended as a selfless act. You do it because you think it can be useful to the recipient. It is a way of wanting to help.
You tell them what you think so they become more informed about what you think! That’s it.
On the forums however, some people tend to think that feedback is a transaction. I give Blizzard feedback and they give me something in return – like doing what I have told them they should do!
Then it becomes a selfish act where players don’t provide feedback to help Blizzard but rather to lobby for their own interests. And that’s not how feedback works.
If your approach to feedback starts with: “What’s in it for me?”, then you’re doing it wrong.
They go on metrics, not just sub counts.
I’m abstaining from most SL content and focusing on older expansions which are fun.
Talking to you guys is like talking to a brick wall. All I am saying is this - casual players do not do endgame and casual players cancel their subs when they run out of things to do. It is part of the flow of the game. They skip 1-2 months, then come back when there’s a new patch out. It is that simple. It is completely dishonest to take Superdata’s data and use it to beat WoW with it, when even Superdata says that’s how things have always been.
More and more gamers are treating their money as an investment. You bought a product - you either enjoy it or you don’t. Nobody really cares. When you spent your money, you bought the product as is. It’s completely stupid to spend your money on a product you hate in the hope that it will improve.
Here’s what you can do though - apply for a job at Blizz. Your suggestions are so good, they get 50 likes! Blizz will immediately hire you with this resume. Then you can actually change the product… Until then, accept your role as a consumer. Don’t take yourself too seriously. Conversation for conversation’s sake is fun, it’s gets your noggin joggin.
200ilvl characters have no place in rated arena. They should get gear first. If you’re 200 ilvl at this stage in the patch… yeah, no. Sorry. Go get gear, catch up and then compete. You’re like complaining that level 50 characters get stomped by level 60 characters. Fact is, 200ilvl characters aren’t on the level to compete in rated arena.
@Thalaara: I think you mean Seppuku / Harakiri, the ritual suicide rite.
Sudokus are number puzzles of sorts and quite fun.
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Booo. I was hoping he’d keep making hilariously inaccurate attempts.
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so they did not add back the pvp vendor or change how pvp gearing worked compared to bfa?
they are changing things and going back towards stuff i think is better for pvp gearing and pvp and pve in general with how the gearing is going to work in 9.1.
and just to point out sometimes what people are asking for you only need to have 3 working braincelse to see is very very bad for the game in general.
for instance soloque for rated or m+, it is not going to work at all simply because of what is needed in m+ or rated pvp, the m+ you will not time 999 out of a 1000 and most will just straight up not finish at all, in pvp you will just loss to 999 out of a 1000 premades.
so there will be called for nerfs in m+ or separation in rated and then we are worse then we started.
proff? you do know we dont know how many subs where in the game after wod(the last expansion where they posted the numbers).
so unless you have an inside source i dont know about im calling bull on that.
anyone is allowed to replay as long as they dont break the rules placed by blizzard or even worse by their own nation(but if you break your own nations rules then im guessing you would not be on a blizzard forum board to talk about it and that would also break blizzards rules)
there is a difference between hearing constructive feedback and feedback that 3 braincells can show is bad for the game.
just because they read what you said and took your feedback, does not mean they have to imploment it, they minimum they had to do was read it(im guessing they have) that is it, now from there they can take a number of actions, 1 do nothing, 2 keeping your problem and ide in mind when making something in that type of content, 3 take inspiration from what you said or 4 take what you wrote and imploment it within the limits of the code of the game.
most of the feedback given is starting at 1 maybe 2, you need a nasty storm for them to go towards 3 or 4.
they changed gearing in pvp compared to pve in 9.1, what is wrong with the gearing? the gear is worse in pve? that is great in my opinion as pve gear is going to be worse in pvp with the same number pvp gear is worse in pve, so nothing wrong there in my opinion.
dont know if you can call that singing but to each there own about that, I dont hate Bieber, simply dont care about him and wont listen to him as he dont play any music i want to listen to so i dont, very simple.
could also be the fact the burst inside cd’s or some classes has insane burst when set up and hits close to a wet noodle when not inside a burst window, gear is not really gonna change that a lot.
the designe of classes is just going the wrong way in my opinion as the burst is to high, but people wanted faster games and it is one way to get them.
and you cant tell others to disagree with you and go against you, but guess what you did multipule times in this tread so hypocrit much?
source? as far as i know the only one with those numbers are the once you are trying to convinvse so good luck without a source(unless ofcourse you have an inside man in blizzard or you yourself is an inside man else you DONT and i mean DONT have the numbers at all, you have what someone guesses them to be, but that is it, a guess no matter how close or far away it is it is just a guess and you are going against someone with the facts)
dont know about you but most people i know are still going to work, eighter from home(if possible or needed) or at their work place, the only once that are home bound mainly is the school kids, at least where i live.
so they are not allowed to an opinion(that is what you say here) as the way it is worded is saying it is their opinion(or wonder), guess what they have just as much right to their opinion about it as you do, heck who have not wondered about how much of the negative feedback wow gets compared to other MMO’s are not because of the youtube streamers? i know i have.
because of the disaster called Warlords of drenor
and they would not be wrong to say the game is great, it is all a matter of opinion and any opinion given as long as it is your own is true, now others can agree or not with it but my opinion is always true when i say it, now others opinion when they say it is also true for them, that is the funny thing about opinions.
nope not going to agree here, both wod and mop had worse gameplay in the first patch then SL just top mention 2, could mention more but you get the point, at least from my point of view it was worse.
not to say that both mop and wod did nothing right they did, but they did a hell lot more wrong.
funny how im still playing wow but the first mmo i played was runescape and im never ever going back there, so blizzard is doing something that makes me come back even after stopping for longer periods of time but Jagex has not been able to get me to lock back, maybe jagex should do something different to get people to look back to them? see how that works?
you sure many of them seems to have made an industry out of getting views and likes on youtube and does that as their job so making content that gets you views is the same as getting food on the table and a roof over your head, see how that could influence their choice of content to create and what they say in said content and what angle they go to the content at.
here is a very good advise be distrustfull of any source of information you get, get as many independent and differnt sources to back it up.
any youtuber has a different intrest in making videos that get people watching.
I sinply quit in the start as i did not like how the game played came back later where i did like the gameplay, same happened in wod where i did not come back before legion and not stopped yet but if i dont like the gameplay or the direction then im unsubing, telling my guildmates im gone for some time into i find the game fun again and that is it.
source of the drop in subs, would love to see the data you have.
but the data is not on google or on the internet as the once with the data is not giving it out so you need an inside source and many cant get their hands on one of them, seems you can so we want you to share it.