Everything in this world is slowly dying…even games. However WoW is far from dead, you know LOTRO has like 700 ppl max on most populated server and they are doing just fine, so when WoW get to like 300 ppl on most populated servers then it will be close to dying. Now? Not even close.
That’s just a straight up false. If you enjoyed sitting in your garrison and sending out troops every few hours and doing nothing else 90% of the time then yes, maybe it was better for you. Otherwise that claim is just objectively BS.
If not having content at all for more than a year didn’t killed wow, if having a major patch that only included a selfish cam didn’t killed wow during WoD, then nothing going to. I know it’s hard to acknowledge as a hater, but you should try.
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Imagine saying this while actiblizz lost 29mill players in q2 
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Objectively? I don’t believe you understand the meaning of the word.
And I did a lot more in WoD than standing in my garrison doing nothing.
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@Naelys: Minor correction… Change in MAUs does NOT equal change in number of players as large numbers of players play more than one game.
Isn’t that all just marketing anyway?
Hey look, you can do something good and get a pretty pet for it!
- Oh yeah, sure. I like doing good.
To me it’s like subscription and donation messages on Twitch/YouTube live streams. Some people really need the acknowledgement?!
Not saying that everyone who bought such a pet is needy or whatever, just that combining charity with a product makes it easier to decide in favor of that product. Even better if you can put your name on it, like sub messages.
The purpose of marketing is to ease the “pain” of parting with our money, isn’t it?
This game is just beyond belief sh*t now… Retail is dying blizzard need to understand it’s dying and only a small % of players actually think it’s decent anymore… Hopefully they don’t fck classic up or this game is dead completely and to be honest I’ll be glad rather than seeing it decline into a even worse game.
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“WoW is dying” the major claim of anyone who has issues with the game since TBC.
The game is dying the same way the majority of people are and Warcraft hasn’t even hit middle age yet.
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Ok now I’m not trying to be rude but you are the definition of a doomsayer all you need is the doomsayer card from Hearthstone on your picture 
.But the thing is what one person thinks it’s a dying game another is or many are still going to play it and love it I still like the game but I’m not playing it because I have no one to play it with since the only problem for me are some of the selfish and closed to themselves people that play solo or pug.
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Well these people are going to claim that until the game actually dies for them so sadly we are always going to have those around.
Nearly everything is dying 
I play at my leisure and I still have so much that I want to do within WoW, I’m in no rush and often get distracted by diversions that have zero impact on progression.
I don’t share this OP opinion. Assuming the game still exists I know I’ll be playing for years to come and there is still plenty of things for me to do when I decide to take the challenge.
The game is consistently being added to in terms of expansions and the likes of WoW classic, people view these as seperate entities but I pretty much think it’s all additional content that is expanding on what I already enjoy.
When the updates and improvements stop and the ceilling has been reached then there will probably be a steady decline, still there is plenty available here for people who have yet to get started and I believe that new players join the game regularly, of course it will never be the same as the titles release, no game is different in this respect.
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Even if it dies this expansion it will just revive on the next one but I am talking about a full new expansion not beta like BfA was. I was one of those quitters within BfA launch because it was incomplete, then turned back as always when the game came out of beta in 8.1.
They need to stop releasing unfinished product and then WoW will have 5-6 million US-EU subscribers again. Nowadays it is probably around 2M, excluding Asia of course.
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The absolute ignorance in this post is laughable.
I usually go full blown flamermode when someone says WoD was worse than BfA but I’m really trying to understand where this is coming from.
How on earth is BfA even remotely better than WoD?
I am actually out in the world playing the game in BFA. In WOD I logged on to do the garrison bit and then logged off again.
However it is all personal preference, some people absolutely hated Wrath, which for me is still the expac I had most fun in.
More content, especially in the open world, world PvP revitalised through warmode, better dungeons and raids, better levelling experience, better mount variety, an actual .1 patch, so on so forth.
The better question is how on earth is BfA anywhere near as bad as WoD?
From a sheer production point of view, then WoD recieved 2 major content updates and then Blizzard moved on to Legion. I.e. they cut the expansion short because they themselves felt it was unsuccessful.
It shows in the story as well. There’s a lot of content missing. The Shattrath raid that never came to be. The Ogre Island that was forever missing. The absence of Farahlon, The missing Zangarmarsh sea zone. The scrapped Garrison locations and customizable building styles. The Horde/Alliance hubs removal. The absence of advertised battlegrounds and scenarios. The missing train transport. Yrel’s botched story. The scrapped Cho’gall story. And so on. And so on.
Like, WoD was a failure from a sheer production point of view. There are more holes in WoD than a swizz cheese. Individual players may like it, but as an expansion project it’s duct-taped together and rushed through with the intent of putting it in the past as quickly as possible and moving on to Legion.
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WoD barely had any outdoor content for max level. You had apexis grind and thats it. BFA has Assaults, Emissaries, Nazjatar events (Battle, commanders, summoning), MEchagon rares and crafts,
Wod had 3 raids in total and 3 world bosses in total. BFA already had 4 raids and 1-2 more to come. There are around 10 world bosses, 2 new ones.
BFA also has, Island Expeditions, Warfronts, many outdoor mounts to farm, pet battle dungeons, many toys, pets to collect. Also Essences and their acquisition.
World PVP in BFA is also far better, there are supply chests, quests to kill horde that award good gear, bounties that award profession mats. I personally never engaged in world PVP until BFA, nowadays i try to cap conquest each week. Friday afternoon there was a huge battle between Mezzamere and New home around 50 vs 50. Horde had 6 assassins with bounty and Alliance around 4 and both sides pushed and pulled trying to reach them. It was an amazing fight that lasted couple of hours.
And probably top one: Mythic+. Most popular feature added since Arena was added in TBC.
I personally quit WOD during Highmaul progression. There was nothing for me to do except log, raid and use my phone app to coordinate missions. Tried to return few times, but until Tanaan jungle there was simply no content.
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one, Tanaan Jungle.
I don’t really see how WoW, still the most played MMO (no, ESO is not doing great with its current 14k average and 20k peak players, just before someone brings it up again) is dying. The lfg tool is still full of groups, it very easy to find people to play with. There are dozens of active guilds for everyone to join, hardcore, casual, doesn’t matter.
Now i’m not saying that BfA doesn’t have any issues because it’s not really among my favourite expansions, especially after Legion, but dying? Really? I don’t think you realize how ridiculous to say it after 15 years, when people started saying it during TBC. Legion is now considered one of the better expansions, yet during Legion, the forums were just as bad as they are now. “This is bad, this is also bad, i can’t find players to play with (of course that was a lie and it still is), boo hoo legendaries, i lost my raid spot, my friends are quitting, i get one titanforged gear once a week therefore progression is dead because now i can get full mythic raiding gear (never saw anyone who actually managed to do that though, just people who had 2-3 piece of good gear and decided that its a good reason to stop progressing)” etc, etc. Yes, there were even threads about how Legion is worse than WoD…
Is farming Azerite my favourite thing to do? Of course not, its a cheap way to make people play the game more. It beats sitting in my garrison for 6 days and sending my followers and ships to gold missions after beating all the mythic dungeons and heroic raid in one day though. The fact that world quests and mythic+ dungeons exist already makes BfA a better expansion than WoD where we had no relevant outdoor content (never farmed apexis crystals and didn’t felt like i missed anything). BfA already has 4 raids and there is more to come, while WoD had 3 because more than half of the expansion were cut, they abandoned it and started working on Legion instead. There was no patch for more than a year, and even before that, we had a “major” patch that had things in it like a camera… And again, we still didn’t saw all the content of BfA.
I’m sorry, but anyone who calls WoD better than BfA is delusional and try way too hard to hate on BfA. It’s not a subjective matter, BfA is the superior expansion in almost every single way.
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