Assa rogues in pre-patch

hey guys, not sure if it’s only me but assa rogues are so deadly in pvp especially solo queue bg… as druid tank i can’t hold long vs assa rogue… bleed dmg is high… pre-patch tuning or what?

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Does your experience come from a warrior’s PoV? The armor changes have shanked physical damage classes.

They were broken in season 4 too. Nothing new.

No, i have a druid guardian alt char. 518 ilvl full pvp gear…

Their ability to shut you out of the game is worse than their damage I find, when you get that one that sicks to you like glue everywhere you go, they’re a nightmare then, particularly CTF maps if you got no one supporting you.

We were better in s4 I feel.
Haven’t played too much prepatch though so I could be wrong.

The fact that I can sap/stun/blind and cap in blitz is retarded though. Now with 2 vanish charges lol.

SAP 1 guy stun the other and cap. Someone trinkets? You vanish wait for Dr and go again

Yes. But this is for all Rogue specs, and Assa is the one that can do it the least often.

All in all Assa is heavily nerfed in BGs with TWW. It lost Dance, lost Acro Strikes (so the cleave doesn’t reach people), and Carnage went from 10s to only 6s. Having 1x more Vanish every 2mins does not compensate at all for that. Any of these nerfs alone isn’t compensated by having one more Vanish (from a pure performance PoV, and also to be clear I’m not complaining about the nerfs as far as BGs are concerned, doing so much teamfight damage with AoE silences on top was too strong), so with all three…

But what I see here is a complaint of a Guardian Druid struggling in 1v1 vs an Assa Rogue without flag stacks. Bruh… just use your spells, a tank should never lose a fair 1v1 in this game, and Assa Rogue actually is one of the very few specs that will even die to you or flee due to no sustained self healing.

The part about guardian druid is true at least.
Not knowledgeable enough to comment on the rogue specific stuff.

I will say that assa was really good into blood dk and possibility still.

Do a bunch of dmg while he cannot heal, due to disarm/evasion then vanish and watch him die lol.

Damn I loved that.

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Well when im with a flag running with 5 stacks assa dmg is high and cannot heal myself as he is vanishing multiple times to garrote and stun me… plus there is risk of me doing out of form and eat hard cc then die ^^ … maybe im not very skilled tank but i can aurvive most peoples damage except rogue… maybe its just me :slight_smile:

No there is no risk. If you play Guardian and carry a flag you never shift our of Bear Form unless all stealthers are revealed elsewhere and you’re alone and need more speed.

You should never ever be caught out of form.

Many specs deal much higher tank damage so …

Your defensives and self heals should be enough to stop you dying to a single rogue, maybe not so much if you’re alone with 10+ stacks or something and nobody coming to help but you can usually survive long enough till someone comes to help.

Its the strongest of the 3 specs now but far from being strong. Elesham, rets and dk are far dar stronger and well…it’s just nasty right now. Rogue is the last one to worry about.

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