Assassination needs a nerf - we all know it


(Vialism) #21
01/10/2018 08:58Posted by Ibsoft
ALL three Rogue speccs are more then fine.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/19


Again - not talking about PvE - just PvP

(Скаррлетка) #22
Nah assa is fine compared to dh/warriors/enchs. Basically if you're rotating correctly through yours defens cds, then you can easily survive vendetta and kite away. But sub is garbage for sure, too much effort for getting 60-70% of any other dps

(Coreil) #23
28/09/2018 14:53Posted by Shaerar
28/09/2018 09:24Posted by Минималиста
No, it simply doesn't. Sub needs redesign. Outlaw is fine.


I agree, naruto spec just needs some redesigns.
Just give them fox demon form already.

#teampirate

find a pit and do ur thing....
idiotic pirate theme.

(Vialism) #24
Seems like it happened!

(Condition) #25
It's still the best spec out of all 3, though.

(Vulrin) #26
Revert sub to mists of pandaria one shadow dance charge and it will easily breeze the current sub and assa and probs outlaw specs given its way of how it used to play.

(Vialism) #27
10/10/2018 06:36Posted by Condition
It's still the best spec out of all 3, though.


Yep, Subt still needs a buff, that's why.

(Gloomie) #28
15/10/2018 16:17Posted by Vialism
10/10/2018 06:36Posted by Condition
It's still the best spec out of all 3, though.


Yep, Subt still needs a buff, that's why.

Sub need rework, not buff
if blizz buff Sub, it will be broken again...
i remember deleting everyone in BGs.. it was OP AF... now it's !@#$ but you can't have big burst with so much CC...
Sub is just CC bot = bad design

(Reggaegsus) #29
I guess you are talking pvp.... pve I don't think they are OP.

OP in 2v2 for sure but how do they balance that without making assa weak in 3s? For some reason Blizz stated they only care about 3v3. They are strong in 3v3 but wouldn't say over the top.

They should make assa harder to play though.

(Söze) #30
15/10/2018 16:29Posted by Gloomie
15/10/2018 16:17Posted by Vialism
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Yep, Subt still needs a buff, that's why.

Sub need rework, not buff
if blizz buff Sub, it will be broken again...
i remember deleting everyone in BGs.. it was OP AF... now it's !@#$ but you can't have big burst with so much CC...
Sub is just CC bot = bad design


I think a rework is probably too much to ask for this expansion. Blizz put a lot of wasted effort into ruining the spec for legion and probably aren't going to back away form that stupid shadowy class fantasy any time soon.

If a rework did happen though, id prefer a return to MoP or even WoD design. Huge burst, one shadowdance charge, removal of shadowstrike.

As thats probably never going to happen, I think Sub would be OK with a few % damage given back to Evis and an un-nerfing of phantom assassin and thief's bargain.

(Sabbahzattar) #31
28/09/2018 09:24Posted by Минималиста
No, it simply doesn't. Sub needs redesign. Outlaw is fine.


I think legion sub was really really good in terms of balance/performance

(Xavyus) #32
among pvp classes, assa is godlike no doubt. Simple rotation, tons of def abilities, easy to master. When i tried casters i wanted to pull my hairs off.

(Fajafajta) #33
Good rogue and bad rogue is still a thing. That means there is skill cap in class. I'm not saying rogue is hard to play but rogue got tools for being hard class to play. Overall rotation is pretty straight forward. Nothing to see here.

(Dalaeli) #34
Rogue is a braindead class.

(Yalamel) #35
asa has !@#$ ton of control, defensives, rly high dmg + vanish (imunity for most oponents)... where is his weaknes??? compared to other meles its to much in one package imho

(Nucca) #36
25/10/2018 12:16Posted by Yalamel
asa has !@#$ ton of control, defensives, rly high dmg + vanish (imunity for most oponents)... where is his weaknes??? compared to other meles its to much in one package imho


Its weakness is that it's very easy to kill and counter if you know what they are doing. Counter vendetta and their dodge properly and they be paper.

(Electricfury) #37
24/10/2018 22:59Posted by Dalaeli
Rogue is a braindead class.


So now mages got more than 2 buttons to press? :D

(Maxstener) #38
28/09/2018 02:19Posted by Vialism
And subtlety/outlaw needs a buff.


You dont fix two weaker ones by buffing them to the levels of which is OP.

I dont think outlaw needs a buff however subtlety tho..

(Retierx) #39
26/10/2018 20:02Posted by Maxstener
28/09/2018 02:19Posted by Vialism
And subtlety/outlaw needs a buff.


You dont fix two weaker ones by buffing them to the levels of which is OP.

I dont think outlaw needs a buff however subtlety tho..

basically, yeah. assa is overtuned, outlaw is fine, sub needs some help.

(Doomchamp) #40
27/10/2018 13:50Posted by Retierx
26/10/2018 20:02Posted by Maxstener
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You dont fix two weaker ones by buffing them to the levels of which is OP.

I dont think outlaw needs a buff however subtlety tho..

basically, yeah. assa is overtuned, outlaw is fine, sub needs some help.


Disagree. After last nerfs assa is fine, outlaw need some help, and sub needs major buffs.