Overall you just have competition. There are more players signing up. And when someone has the choice between someone who has done that dungeon already (or maybe 1 lower key) they show experience. Taking someone who has never done that dungeon is taking more risk. THAT is not a rio-problem.
I am capable of doing all dungeons on +15 if you would use your brain which you clearly are not seeing your posts .I blame the tool being used wrongly because it is:? Like seriously more thinking would do you good.
How are you even comparing it to a job application? It means you truely believe doing dungeons is exactly like applying to the job like wtf. Even if the comparsion had base(which it doesnt at all because you can twist it in so many ways you do 1 specialization not 10 ) you are doing a disservice to rio by making sure it’s the same as something unfun as job.
Again reading comprehansion is weak with you i do my own keys i don’t need to push my own keys and i’m not lazy you retard cause it seems you can’t read.
The keyowner just has the choice between someone who has done the dungeon before, and who hasn’t. There is 1 attempt to do the key. It is not that you can try again after a fail. So keyowners try to take the least risk.
I’m replying to this incredibly whining and entitled part of your previous post, which clearly explains you were not creating your own groups:
But alas this week i wanted to do 4 more +15(i do only for the achievement) but i got rejected already cause i have’t done the dungeon lul on a 14 to see my xp.
So stop lieing and being super lazy, expecting boosts for free. Ask a Gallywix boost if you’re unable to do the keys on your own.
I didn’t look at your RIO page. You are specced holy currently and you said, “i did 4 +15 in my first try and could make an educated guess i can do any other +15 just as fine.” You assume that other people know you. But they don’t. They go by the information they have access to or that they are given. This is also not about you in particular.
Actually, I have not experienced toxicity in either Legion or BFA M+ PUGs. I don’t provoke toxicity in my groups. I do play much more often with friends, because for me, the social aspect is what makes M+ interesting. I recommend to give this a try.
How is it lazy? Wait let me honestly ask you what is your train thought when you say i am lazy and i want an honest response.
For me i interpret it like this because I wanted to join a key i am fully capable of doing and not wanting to use my key i am being lazy and entitled? This means that in every mythic + group there are 4 lazy persons and 1 hard working one?
This is exactly what i think your though process is . If i want to join someone else’s key i am not being lazy. If i want to get carried i am being lazy. Though i clearly know that i can do that key but the key owner does not know. Here is the catch though the key owner HAS ALL THE INFO. And can easily fiind out i am fully capable of doing that key what happens is the key owner has 0 clue how to use that information and thinks that because i have never done that key this season i suddenly am not capable of doing it which in it of itself as a fact is wrong.
Raider io just tells you that they haven’t done this key not that they are not capable of doing it but the sheeps that are in our community are just thinking that not doing a dungeon = you brick any key which is complete and utter nonesense. Someone not doing a key means just that they have not done it for al intent and purposes is information you don’t know ,what you know is that they timed other +15 that is info that you know and maybe if people started using information that they can see about a player and not non-information(which always breed wild speculation and not educated guesses) RIo might be better than just plain ilvl currently it’s used horribly.
But i am still curios why are you calling me lazy and entitled? I said i will do them the other way (both ways are as much work) so clearly it’s not for me begging to get carried cause i also tank and i am clearly doing them correctly.
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Alright, so. You don’t have statisically proven to other players you are capable of doing the key. You did do other content, but not the content you apply for. I am confident others queue up that did the content. Of course you will be declined because of this.
You are lazy because you don’t seem to be trying to get the key yourself, but instead rely on others having the key and trying to join their group. You are solely blaming it on an addon while the fix is right in front of you. Yet, you only blame externals.
Here’s the main problem i have with this system. If the keyowner has that information he is making an educated guess on the guy that has done the key. But this case is actually not that often when you are applying to 1 man groups(they just started forming).
What happens is this,the guy sees you haven’t done the key and rejects you,no other person to choose from no brain used in that decision. It just uses the garbage non-information rio gives him that he hasn’t done the dungeon and suddenly puts bars on his entry in the content.
Instead RIO could show him that hey this guy did +15 or 10/s or whatver he is applying to, he also did this this season instead of telling him hey we actually don’t know about this guy which is something you cannot use you need stuff you know about the guy like what he has done his prefferd comp what he does usually flashing in the face of the person.
Rio is not improving at all in trying to help people do keys togheter rio is just providing wrong info so people can blame that info on when they reject someone ,the actual group makers are lazy in checking you and so just use whatever rio gives first and rio gives garbage first,it can be used really well but it gives garbage and the scoring system is horrible.
Again the affix scoring regarding season should be mimicked,there is no reason my score droped from s2 to s3 for 1 affix. None. Also they should add educated scores to dungeons not done,simple as that you can easily make a system that gives you an educated guessing score depending on how many dungeons you do. You put a hard coeficient to the dungeon and a bigger score for more dungeons done. Not this 0 attached to a dungeon you haven’t done. We all know how untrue it is someone capable of doing +15 in KR can do +17 in any other dungeon.
For general information if you do pUll by pull without knowing any route you can achieve around +17/+18 done in time with pugs. As long as you don’t fck up ,sounds wow but really isn’t without any dungeon routes without any shroud shenanigans just pull by pull accordingly ilvl and clean play.
And the content is the same . You are seriously thinking that my Cutting edge in other expansions means 0 fck in a new raid tier? It means i know how to play that i am going to play well and so on so forth.
Both of those are dungeons they aren’t PVP and PVE they are the same thing so the experience is transcending both mediums they aren’t different. I don’t know why you try to make them out as different it’s like you think Dungeons and Raids have nothing in common, they have alot they are different but not completely. ANd here i am talking about dungeon vs dungeon.
Also the reason i apply to other guys keys is cause my key ends up being one of the same 4 i have at +15 and im just doing it for the R4,with limited time i cannot run 10 dungeons hoping the 11 is the correct key . That’s why we have a community so i can pick other keys maybe other guys got other stuff and they do but hello RIO police barring my entry to that key specifically because i didn’t do what? Do the same exact dungeon 1 level lower which is madness that you can even think that’s a good showing.
Was against RIO till todays morning run in KR +7. I used my key and invited couple of people without knowing their rio. We wiped on first boss, as they even had not read the tactics. I was tank. So Never again i will pug without RIO.
Im curios do you know why people don’t know mechanics in m+ more often between 1-9 than above 10 ? Hint it’s because the content they are doing gives them 430 and so their ilvl is so inflated around that they want upgrades and when the game gives them upgrades only from things close to 10 then clearly they won’t do lower level content.
Blame the gearing that’s so fcked up before blaming not having IO.
If it’s all so easy, why don’t you just do them yourselves and play with your guildies? You seem to be in a guild where a lot of people are capable of doing a +15. Yet, you only try to play with randoms.
In the end pugs will always need some sort of proof. Apparently your 4x +15 keys don’t give them enough trust. If raiderio gets removed, something difficult will come into place. This has always been the case.
I can understand RNG will mess you up a little, but at this stage you should be able to do every key. +15’s in current content have been accessible for a long time now.
I agree with rio needing improvements, but you are still competing with others. Others that will show up in the next minute WITH experience. The run will be done anyway, the keyowner has just a little more patience to get people they have less risk with. They are also not saying you can not do it, they just don’t know. You are a higher risk than other people.
But again; I certainly agree rio needs improvements. And also the whole blizzard keysystem where you don’t rely on your own key and that just 1 attempt can ruin it.
It’s exactly cause of my time limitations when i have time to do keys my guild members are not online i don’t think i had once time when they were on so off to the pug world which isn’t that horrible as long as you know how to look for someone hint using RIO is also a way if you know what to look for because i said it’s a good tool in good hands but it can and should be improve. because good hands is a rarity in wow and it acts just as a means to deny content currently.
The whole point of doing a key is that you’re pushing towards the maximum of your skill. One attempt ‘ruining’ the key is EXACTLY what’s good about a key in my eyes.
You literally have to play perfectly in order to advance to the next stage. If you get to a point where you are stuck, you have either reached your limit, or need to think of a solution.
I blame it on the fact that they see i haven’t done the dungeon and not factoring in what i’ve done at all, if Raider io gave me a score of 1.4 based on what i’ve done(a guessing score) i would get insta invite. It’s because pugs don’t think they let Raider io think for them and RAider io doesn’t do that it just is badly made currently all hopes and pray blizzard tool gives us better info and more.
So I would suggest finding a different guild then. If they’re not online when you are, why are you even playing in that guild?
Or find a mythic + community. They are out there. Just requires a bit of effort to find them. If you stop posting now and look for one, chances are you find it today.
If you would just pug a +10 KR they might think it’s enough already. Honestly, I can’t really sympathize with you. You have done 2 dungeons not a single time at all, only because your demands are really high.
It’s cause i mythic raid and work for Cutting edge? I just fiind m+ rewardless. We have now a r4 there so i’m doing it for that but mythic + is rewardless unless you are doing 20+ to try and get into e-sport everything between 10-20 is wasted time for me that’s why i usually did only my 10 i will do all dungeons once and get the 15 done in time just for the rank4.
Not advancing to the next level is something else then downgrading.
It also creates this whole toxic environment where a keyowner is getting disappointed when he apparently invited the wrong people for the job. And there was only 1 attempt possible.
And you can never get yourself a key for every different dungeon, so you rely on other peoples keys.
I would play so much more when I was able to choose my own dungeon key and level.