Thank you, Iām using a 1.5 attack speed Worg. Itās not worth the time to get the 1.2 speed one for the little difference it makes. Because that helps my raid group the most. I leave you with your crappy kitty though
Well, gotta admit at first I thought you were wrong, even though I knew what point you were making.
I thought the fact that a fast attack pet can get one more attack at the end before the mob dies while the slow attack pet is still waiting makes up for the initial damage difference, but it only does so 50% of the time, so yes, youāre right, a slow attack pet will do more dps. Not sure how significant the difference is though, definitely not enough for me to have a second cat pet purely for raiding.
You started off by saying 1.0 does more now you agree 2.0 does more but its not noticeable? baby steps I suppose, few more hours youāll be agreeing with me.
I mean, the only serious investment you need for tribute runs is being an engineer, and why wouldnāt you wanna be an engineer anyway? I canāt imagine a hunter making nearly the gold they can make in DM:T by farming ZF or Mara.
No, not definitely wrong, because it depends on what you consider ānoticeableā. 0.5 seconds of a petās dps per mob in a raid on average can be noticeable. Iām not arguing that it should affect your pet choice, but when you (and me) thought a fast attack pet does the same dps, we were incorrect and I see nothing wrong with admitting it.
No, not really. Hereās a little sheet I made a while ago: https://i.imgur.com/fRDhTvd.png
So lightning breath actually does less dps than claw, and also some bosses have a high nature resist I think.
I would use broken tooth or a boar (currently using a boar myself) dedicated for pvp and a pve pet with full fire resist. In pvp uād rather have arcane/frost/shadow res.
The dps difference from the higher speed is very insignificant in individual fights but over time it could add up, but a hunter with better pet management would quickly outweigh this difference.
The main thing to do is pick a pet you enjoy using. After all it will be with you all the time you play. As above, Petopia is an excellent site and has a section specific to classic. You can train some skills to different pet types. For instance I tend to use Humar the Pridelord (1.3 attack speed for all the statisticians) trained with claw, bite and dash. Each level of those has been from taming scorpions, bears, other cats and wolves. Classic has limited stable slots so itās best to always keep a slot free to park your main pet in when you want to tame another for their skill. Use the beastlore spell to check them out first before you tame to make sure they have the skill you want. Tame a beast, play using it a bit and check the pet training spell (looks like a Y) to ensure youāve learnt its skills then itās safe to abandon it and get your main pet back and train it with the new levels or skills. Donāt forget to visit the pet trainer for things like stamina and armour etc and itās worth popping growl on any new pet even if youāre just keeping it for a short while to learn a skill.
I prefer to just respec my BT before a raid.
By the way, regarding the furious howl skill, Iām quite sure it doesnāt scale with anything, no matter if its backstab/critical hit etc, just a flat bonus. So overall wolves only do just a bit more dps and thatās if they buff 5 targets which doesnāt always happen, so I just raid with my cat.
Cant remember of this Broken Tooth āmetaā in vanilla, probably one more thing made in pservers/streamers.
The more used pets by the best hunters in the server, were the elite cats from stv, Rotam from winterspring, rfk elite boars, zg bats for pvp, (silence+good attack speed) and at some point wind serpents.
If i hit 60 with my hunter, iāll probably use Rotam/rfk boar.
Feeling the pain of those that camped, or are camping for days(?) the Broken Tooth spot, probably in vain.
No, BT was known for having the fastest attack speed (along with ZG bats) in Vanilla too. But not many could be bothered to camp for him. If you check WoWhead youāll see most of the comments are from Vanilla.
Common alternatives for fast attack pets were
-Hillsbrad mountain lions, 1k Needles cougars, SoS jaguars, The Rake, and sfk worgs and Deathmaw (fastest wolves) with 1,2 sec attack speed
-or a bunch of different StV cats, some Darkshore cats, a couple of Ashenvale wolves, and Humar (my main pet from Vanilla, which I still have) with 1,3 sec attack speed
And bats didnāt have silence in Vanilla. Pets didnāt get a silence until TBC, and that was Nether Rays with an interrupt that prevented casting of the specific school of magic for 2 secs. Bats still had Screech up until at least Cata, but it was changed to a stun in TBC.
Well, you are wrong.
BT has always been the fastest attack speed cat.
The ZG bat equalled that speed but only came MUCH later.
So the first choice was definitely BT.
And no pet had silence.
I feel the pain for those who confused TBC and Vanilla, and missed on BT which is for now the best anti-caster pet.
For raiding itās probably the worg from lbrs but I really hate that it and other good pets canāt eat fish.
As a fisherman I always have some random fish in my inventory and if I run out of food I really want to get some quick for my pet w/o searching for a hub with the right food. Thatās why I would recommend (for outdoors pet) the carrion birds 2.0 or the one in blasted lands with higher speed if you care to camp it. Screech (owl donāt eat fish) is really enjoyable for the ears for you wpvp-opponent and quit good for multytargets.