Blizzard, I beg you, do not forget about Malfurion in Harandar. Alpha spoilers

Knowing that Harandar contains the roots of all the world trees Malfurion’s presence is absolutely essential. Stormrage deserves a real role in main the story at least once, not just as a sidekick to other characters. This new zone is perfect place for him to shine

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Also he should know it exists, he was fusioned with all plants/nature of azeroth during the war of the ancient

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What’s Worse, Malfurion can travel through the roots of the World Trees long before the Haranir even became a concept. This is another thing that Haranir taking from the night elves.

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We don’t know that. Trolls were there before the nelves, and if the haranir are “the missing link” of troll-to-nelf-development then they could have just as well started travelling long before that

We had enough Malfurion between Legion and dragonflight. Give him a rest.

Rest? REST!? That’s the poorest choice of words you could have said about him. :rofl:

We have enough Jaina, Thrall, Anduin and Sylvanas for the entire saga but Malfurion? He is the least used hero from the Warcraft 3 and faction leader.

Even big content creators like Belural and Platinumwow mention about that issue.

Hey, we had the BfA-novellas, where Malfurion was, in almost knaakian fashion, worth about as much as the whole Horde army, till he was sucker-punched by Onepunch-Saurfang’s axe.

…which was probably where he should have died, as much and as artificially as they benched him afterwards…

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You want him to end up like Cairne? I’m still angry at Blizzard for this. But knowing how writers have been toying with the concept of Malfurion’s death for years, I wish they had done it much sooner. Maybe in exchange for his death, he saved all Teldrassil civilians. Tragic but heroic death.

Since Malfurion is [was] confirmed to be Metzen’s favorite character, I find it hard to believe he’ll be side-lined in an expansion in which not only the elven tribes are claimed to be united but beyond which we also see this stuff of nature.

Chris Metzen commented that Malfurion Stormrage is his personal favorite character in the Warcraft lore.[122]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Malfurion_Stormrage#Notes_and_trivia

122 ^ Medievaldragon. Chris Metzen & Micky Neilson Pocket Star Books Lore Q&A Video Interview. BlizzPlanet. Retrieved on 2009-04-14.​ “I mean Malfurion’s always been, personally, my favorite Warcraft hero…”

Maybe better than living like Baine. :wink:

More seriously, that’s not the best case scenario for him, of course. But having him as a super powerhouse and either ignoring him, or deliberately sidelineing him is worse to me. He either should be at the front line of stuff that is happening, get depowered, or get his hopefully heroic death. An axe in the back isn’t exactly a worthy end, but I’d even prefer the unworthy end to the unworthy existence.

Sorry, but after the Emerald Dream patch, I’m sure he was lying or had a short night elves phase at the time of interview.

For the first 6 years of WOW Malfurion was completely absent. In CATA he got a fight Ragnaros to shine. He’s gone again MOP and WOD. Legion was most potential, but Malf was replaced by Velen and Illidan, only to be thrown into the plot of the first zone where became a laughing stock. I won’t mention Bfa and SL for my own sanity.

Ok, I somehow**…** can understand all of this, but the lack of Malfurion in Emerald Dream was the final nail in the coffin for me.

Let’s not beat around the bush, this is his dimension, when you think about ED, you think about Malfurion and vice versa. Every Dream enthusiast waited years of exploring and defending it alongside the archdruid himself. But Blizzard decided to ruin one of the most touching deaths in the game and bring back Ysera sacrificing Malfurion. Imagine someone you most associate with Sunwell and Silvermoon (Liadrin, Lor’themar etc.) disappeared in midnight prepatch"for reasons" and didn’t return until the epilogue. This is exactly how I felt in 10.2

That’s not how you treat your favorite character. If you said his favs are Jaina and Thrall, seeing them almost everywhere I would believe you. If this interview didn’t exist and you said this about Malfurion, everyone would laugh.

Okay… you had a point.

He should’ve been constantly in the main cast from the beginning of Legion

they had so many chances, possibilities and solutions to balance his power level but at the same time I’ve never seen in game his power go beyond what Jaina, Khadgar or Thrall can do

Funnily enough, his death would be opportunity for him to develop. We know he’s so connected with Nature the universe confuses him with Wild gods. After death he could end up in ED or Ardenwelad as a powerfull Spirit. in these realms he would be invincible, but if he wanted to materialize on Azeroth it would take away most of his power.

We could also broaden the idea of deathly sacrifice here as anything that would put him permanently out of commission, including ascending to some higher form or becoming somehow bound (or should I say rooted?) to a specific place. Ardenweald is a possibility, of course, and one that might make his DF vacation there look a little less stupid than it was, but I guess I’d personally just prefer them to leave the Shadowlands out as much as possible…

I’ve seen many theories (and prefer that one) in which Malfurion became the Persephone of Warcraft, maybe he shouldn’t be bound to a place but rather to a specific time. He may return to Azeroth at certain period or for a strict conditions

Isn’t Malfurion infamous for being very difficult to apply anywhere exactly due to his power level? To the point where any inclusion of him will feel dissatisfactory unless he is absolutely trouncing everyone, everything and their great grandparents all at once?

I feel like even arguing to de-power him just so he can ‘fit in’ will rustle a lot of britches…

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love less attention to Thrall, Jaina, Anduin and the typical cast… but yeah.

The curse of being all powerful, I suppose. No one wants to play with you or feel apprehensive to include you.

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We just benched him in an addon that was all about the whole might of the dragon swarms faltering in the face of their foes. I don’t think it can reasonably be argued that his power level would have been out of place there. Heck, we just fought a Void Lord.

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How powerful opponent must be to be considered worthy of Malfurion in the eyes of gamers? Lorewise he’s definitely on the level of Azshara and Archimonde, but below N’zoth, Argus, or Deathwing.

For a random WoW player Malfurion seems weaker than Xavius. Thrall, Anduin, Jaina maybe even Khadgar looks significantly more powerful on the screen.

All sorts of ideals, I suppose. I too feel like he should have been at his most important during DF, alongside the focus of the Night Elves getting a tree of their own to call home again and such instead of Ysera getting a free ticket to skip the rules of life and death.

That’s where it also doesn’t make sense to me. One of the reasons why, despite loving their VA’s, the typical cast of Thrall, Jaina and Anduin being around does nothing.

Not a question to apply to a community like WoW if you expect a sensible answer ( We still get the Lightforged Laser being apparently as big as Independence Day reference as a ludicrous example). I would love to see Malfurion around, but it seems his story ended with finally relaxing with his wife in Bel’ameth.

Not something I necessarily agree considering that, once again, the typical cast is all well and good and not in the mood to retire anytime soon. :person_shrugging:

EDIT: Bringing back to Malfurion again though, at what scale would you have him in Harandar? Curious question.

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To be honest, I don’t really care about any of the characters, Malfurion included. But that’s kind of the point. No matter if we look at Anduin, jaina, Thrall, Khadgar, Malfurion or… well, anyone, they don’t feel like characters reacting to situations that concern them in the game, they feel like some collector’s action figure that’s occasionally taken out to present to the guests that are supposed to be adequately impressed.

At the announcement of the “Worldsoul Saga” I had hoped that we would actually have a coherent story that we would live through with the same cast of characters at our side, but seems like that was too much to ask for once again. I mean, I kinda hate Anduin, but with more time and effort you could probably make him grow on me. Giving him a fasttracked PTSD arc in TWW and then benching him in the next addon certainly won’t.

At this point I just want a team of equals to work with the MC. I don’t care if the power level is more of the boar-slaying or the god-slaying kind, or if we are going the RPG/anime route of leveling up as a team, just make it halfway storming consistent for once. Selling the occasional dialogue we get over years as character work is a joke.

Of course, Orweyna should be the main character there, but I want him to be one of the central heroes and quest givers. I would definitely add him to the Rift of Aln storyline. The problem of Nightmare and Black Blood cannot be solved by pure force, so his OP powers would not play a major role here. Also I see him in the continuation our journey to core Azeroth. Maybe in Haranir Alliance recruitment scenario.

Honestly, it’s weird. Blizzard forced add these characters into the story, as if they were afraid realese expansion without even a single moment with them. Why do we have Thrall in SL or Jaina in TWW? No one knows.

TWW should be Dagran’s moment to shine! He has so much potential but the writers wasted it for another Anuind internal crisis!:dracthyr_cry_animated:

I think they did it really well with Alleria in Azj’Kahet and even better on K’aresh. She messed up Xal’atath’s plans so much that Harbringer made one of her mission to ruin her entire life.:face_with_hand_over_mouth:

I can work with a heavy advisory role. Anything more than that will just detract from the idea of the importance of the zone, its individuals and its overall story imo. Jaina featuring heavily in Nazjatar for example felt as much plausibility as Baine starring in Kul Tiras because he had a conversation to someone about fish.

Honestly, yeah.

We’re too focused on the individual nowadays, not the world. I missed it when the cinematics showcased the potential of the player and their character and not what this NPC was thinking or is doing at the time. It might save resources (time is one ofc) and provides a more focused storyline, but it also leaves behind just about everything else…

I miss that one particular TBC cinematic of seeing the Undead Warlock hellfire nova a group of murlocs and jumping around on his raptor mount. That alone has a lot more substance to me than Thrall and Anduin looking off into the distance and pondering the Big Sword.