Burning Crusade Classic Realm Consolidation August 10

Celebras was the most populated server, and the on with most RP happening.
HW was middle population with least RP happening - basically people used it as overflow for the too few normal servers.
ZT was the least populated server, but with more RP than HW.

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I just wanted to throw an update on HW situation how I have seen it past few days. Population and activity is growing on a daily basis. Slowly, but still growing. I’ve been leveling different characters (3 low levels < 20) and every day I see other people leveling their characters.

AH is still non existent, tough I managed to sell 3 copper ore at 10s after mentioning it in our global chat channel. We are still working on AH, but trade happens in our global chat. Usually trading materials, like leather to ore etc.

We still use 4. LookingForGroup as a global chat, almost like a guild chat on alliance side. Sometimes it’s quiet, but it bursts into a great conversations once in a while. Last night (or was it night before) we had a good hour and a half chat about, well, anything really.

More German players has show up, at least I’ve got that impression. We have room for everyone. I really love Erlich’s (sorry if i got that wrong) business adds once in a while, good laughs.

Sadly I don’t know about horde side, other than it’s pretty quiet, but horde is usually underpopulated in RP realms in general, so that is not a surprise. Hopefully they’ll get the spark and gain some more activity.

Overall, we have a small, helpful and friendly community, growing every day. We have at least one raiding guild on alliance side, but naturally getting a group for dungeons while leveling is difficult.

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:smiling_face:

I do not expect that anyone will pop up in front of his desk :wink:

It´s rather an “discussion goes on, leads into a wrong direction” “someone one day shares it somehwere else”
and it ends up as an “Blizzard said, that something completely unrelated

As always. :sweat_smile:

And it is not the main reason, just a side note.
The main reason is something else…

makes it easier for my undead (or the guild he is in) to take over the world :smiling_imp:

Death to the living!!! (ALL of them… :smirk:)

Edit: The most difficult part ist currently not “kill them all” but “find them all…” :smile:

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Can confirm ashbringer needs to be on here badly, i have checked every day this week and i have seen a max of 1-2 people in stormwind, i’ve tried to get dungeons groups on my 60 pally since it’s holy and i can’t get anyone and the auciton house is also dead with it, i tried buying some greens so i can quest as ret and there’s nothing on there at all. this is on alliance too btw :smiley:

As others in this thread have mentioned, closing Zandalar Tribe would be a huge mistake. RP-PVP is a unique ruleset and a laid back style of play that is hard to find on the regular PVP servers. People who enjoy that ruleset should have a place to call home instead of being forced onto the other PVP servers with a more toxic community and rampant GDKP spam.

Completely removing a ruleset from play does nothing to help the playerbase and in fact actively hinders it. There are people playing on Zandalar Tribe right now who would love the chance to rebuild the realm and foster a proper community if only given the chance.

Surely it’s much less effort overall to just allow Zandalar Tribe as a destination realm for both factions?

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The current player numbers, or even the amount of RP on the realms, never mattered. And Blizzard thought apparently, we would just all move to Hydraxian Waterlords - that there might have been a reason, why the player wanted a german one and did not just go to Hydraxian Waterlords during release… maybe they just forgot.

I think what he meant, was:

You can do PVP on a PVE realm (not that good, but it is possible). A PVP player can more likely feel good on an PVE, then a PVE player on an PVP realm (and i think, that´s true- i came from RP-PVP. It´s not that much fun on an PVE realm, but i can deal with it).
The other way around, a PVE player on an PVP realm, constantly killed, would cancel because he can not have fun on this realm type

the other “displacement” is, actually, language i guess.
There are more player who relay on english, then players who relay on german.

The conclusion => Hydraxian Waterlords.
Because it is the realm type most player can compromise with → and are not displaced

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and still i don’t know, why blizzard just can’t keep running all three realms. where is the problem? money surely isn’t it. some could argue with player numbers but that’s a thing, we kinda got along with. keep all three realms alive, open free transfers to them and that’s it. no need to wipe our homes -.-

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Hello Kaivax,

Please close free transfers FROM Zandalar Tribe and open free transfers TO Zandalar Tribe.

Some of us have chosen to play WoW to only play on RPPvP servers. Even with the free transfers up for months, we’re still here having fun and building a community.

We’ve chosen to make Zandalar Tribe our home and we’ve been seeing an increase in population. Zandalar Tribe feels like the authentic way to play WoW.

Please do not get rid of Zandalar Tribe our home.

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now that we’ve already started picking apart the post. :sweat_smile:

I find this snippet here much more interesting:

"Justify?
To whom?
The PVP players seem happy, no one has shown up yet, so apparently everything is done right.

The patchwork players for example scream “kill them all” and want to be merged, too.

The roleplayers are calling a “happy” “get away from our realms” to Blizzard.

So he can’t have meant the players. :wink:
There is no one so far who is really happy.

The dev team themselves?
They do not have to “justify” it for themselves… just to decide.

It is one of the most interesting wording (for me) and i find it difficult to not interpret too much into it.

But that the decision is final for all realms was very clear. :slightly_frowning_face:

Edit: And yes, I know especially in IT/Dev there are way more things to consider.
Time for maintenance, etc.
Sometimes you want to do things but you know, you can´t “justify” the effort… however… the reason would be nice to know.

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The only “justify” I see here is money-wise. But I wonder how many lost subs will pay for one realm …

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Sure thing, but as a friend told me: So was the decision not to have German Classic servers - and so was the decision not to have a German language rp server. :wink:

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That´s the problem - we do not know how much work “in the background” with maintenance etc goes on. Maybe it is expensive, beside the hardware costs.
But this kind of internas we will never know.

Another reason could be PR (not RP :wink: ): “oh, so many empty realms. It´S DYinG!1!!”

We don´t know. Never will, probably :frowning:

Btw: we NEED to talk in private (farewall party… i think there is no way to avoid it :worried:)

Yes, and then there was more enthusiam for Classic as they expected, and they decided to give it a try.

And now, at least the EU-RP-Realms, didn´t work in their opinion.

That´s the problem if you do not understand the dynamics on an RP - Realm, and have only numbers in mind to consider, if a Realm is “healthy”.

Back then, during “the great exodus” of roleplayers in Retail… from how many german realms they did gather?
16?
And they filled ONE.
ONE single realm.

I´d really like to know, why Blizzard expected, that the numbers would be high(er) on Celebras…
sigh

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Does anyone know where the characters will be forced to move to yet? Any speculation even?

As for the destinations themselves for the consolidation effort, we are still working through where exactly these realms’ remaining populations should end up, but I think its safe to say that we are unlikely to move these populations onto the realms you listed above, but rather onto realms with a much higher active population. I hope that we can lock in the details and provide more specific information on these destinations very soon.

From Aggrend, in the WoW Council Board.

Maybe they still don´t know themselves.
But it´s probably at least a realm with a middle population, maybe even “high”.

The RP realms… I’m really curious myself as to where we’re going to end up there… and I’ll see.

sits in front of her tent and looks thoughtfully at the stars

Well, Hydraxian Waterlords was dead and many people I’ve played with have transferred to another realm due to your decision to close down the server. As a player coming back for Wrath of the Lich king, I am no longer able to follow my old friends and guildmates via the Free Transfer Service because you have made an amendment to your decision to close down the server after everyone already left.

I am now stuck on a server which I now have to pay to transfer all of my characters from and when speaking to Blizzard Support (as the free transfer option is still available on my Store) they have said that I’ll just have to level new characters again.

I hope that you allow transfers from HW until the beginning of WotLK so that people can continue to play with their friends without having to pay a huge sum to transfer all of those characters over. You have trapped returning players such as myself on a once dead server with still a minimal population and without friends. I think this decision should be reconsidered if at all possible.

Thanks

So when will it happen? Someone know info about it?

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Never, as there IS no underpopulated normal realms :wink: Chromie might be low-pop, but as it is the only Russian PvE server I would not get my hopes up if I were you.

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Previous to this whole mess, i would have said the same for Zandalar Tribe and Celebras… Never say never… :confused:

What are you asking for?
Free transfer OFF HW is still in the shop
Free treansfer TO HW is still NOT in the shop despite Blizz’s promise to open it.

If you want off HW, take the free transfer before Blizz closes it.
If you want free transfer TO HW then tell Blizz in no uncertain words.

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You cannot transfer from HW.

Quote from the email from Blizzard Support via email:

" I appreciate you taking the time to reach out to me about a transfer concern. I know it can be frustrating to reach out for assistance so thank you for being patient while we look into your situation.

I read your case to see how I can help. I took a look into the Free Migration for EU Burning Crusade Classic Realms, but I am afraid that Hydraxian Waterlords is no longer eligible for a Free Migration transfer: Burning Crusade Classic Realm Consolidation August 10

If you have a desire for a specific realm, you would need to look into purchasing the character transfer service from the shop in-game."

This was possible two months ago and the entire server, inclusive of friends, moved given they was told the server would be closed down. Now they have changed their mind, leaving me and others stranded on a server we can’t move from and nobody can yet move to.

Hope that clarifies