Button bloat - 3 invisibilities is a little much?

Classes Mage
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Really love the new talents, but with one build having 10+ more active abilities than another for the likes of rogue, monk, mage and especially shaman is a bit much. I wouldn’t ofc like to lose spells, but a bit of tidying up in the talents would be really nice. Here a few example you could make for mage:

  • Greater invisibility replaces invisibility.
    Shorten the cool down a bit or lengthen it and give 2 charges to keep mage playing the exact same with one less key.
    – Mass invisibility is a passive that gives ur party the invisibility when you use it
    A nerf, perhaps, but again with a bit of tuning mage would function almost the same

  • Icy flows choice note with displacement instead of shimmer.
    Having both icy flows and shimmer is ofc a huge buff, but placed correctly in the talent tree that could be a fine since you sac points to get there? and again it could be tuned around making icy flows share stacks with shimmer or something.

  • Mass poly and ring of frost choice note.
    just to see them both get more use and because one or the other is often fine anyway. Granted I do think ring of frost would be picked 8/10 times.

I’m not saying these are great solutions to a serious problem, but I would love to see the devs think a bit more like this. Would make it a lot nicer to shift from pve to pvp as well if pvp talents too were included in this thinking.

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There are only two invisibitys fyi.

Bru, no.
I need both.
Invis is for dropping aggro or movespeed, Ginvis is a defensive CD.

Mass Poly can go, Nobody uses that in PVE.
Ring of Frost has a good use though.

How would they reduce button bloat?
Just don’t take displacement?

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Mass poly would be cool if it was aimable. Even if its not useful it’s fun.

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Mass Poly and Mass Invisibility should both be PvP Talents and instant cast with 3 min CD each for all specs to pick.

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mass invisibility also exists, so that’s 3 :slight_smile:

Ye I get the needing of both invises, but the movement speed could just be in greater as well and it could have two charges or lower cd. they’re obviously not the same but similar enough and mage already has gotten tons of tools this exact.

I want to be good at my class so I’ll pick displacement when it’s good and have a reserved keybind for it. However, that isn’t very often, so putting it on a choise note with another spell could fill out the reserved keybinds in more scenarios.

Noone uses mass poly in pvp either :smiley:
I would like to see some cool use for it, but ye, right now it feels like it has a bit too central of a position in the tree for how nishe it is.

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They should just put Blazing Speed to general Tree from Cauterize and remove that +10% speed boost for 2 secs and other similar crap…

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Would be better if improved scorch was just baseline for fire, its a dead talent as no one wastes points on and screws with mobility.

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Scorch 3/3 debuff: 15% more damage % 15% more crit for XX secs.

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Pretty sure it says greater invis on the talent’s tooltip :joy: what a mess. If you look at the incatation of swiftness talent on wowhead, its written like greater invis is supposed to replace invis but they forgot to do it for some reason.
Also frost and fire get a bigger speed boost than arcane which is a SL hangover to compensate for Arcane’s greater invis having a 2min cd instead of frost and fires normal invis’s 5min cd.

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There are 6 invisibilities if you play Nelf Arcane Mage, buy/craft Invisibility Potions and use Invisibility Field from Engineering.

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