Can you ban premades until War Within?

Kind of. But the frustration also leads people to write the most stupid ideas and suggestions a human brain can think of :dracthyr_crylaugh:

Coming to the forums is just a meme at this point. This is the 1056234 Thread about sync-premades and some people write as like this time Blizzard will actually do anything about it.

But I agree with you, let them vent a bit…

And its been explained several times why it breaks CoC.
Ive even told you several times why you are wrong with your statement of “Its legal because blizz do nothing”. Thats still not how the world works.
Can they easily fix it? Yes. Do they take years to do it? Yes. Do they care that much about ppls experience in general in BGs? No. Which shows with their lack of actions against CoC breaking syncers.

“People kinda have fun doing these sessions”.
Yes, and bullies like bullying ppl because it makes them feel superior even when they are rock bottom.
Syncers literally bully casuals.
“We have fun stomping with no challenge.”
“We have fun destroying casual PvP and make ppl quit.”

Its almost like syncers hate this game so much they want to destroy it for everyone else at the same time.

Blizz has a tendency to not do anything about alot of things. Even some exploits and abuse. They can say statements but also not even do anything with it.

There is a reason why they removed the ability to que as a raid into Ashran in WoD. If you remember that.

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Using discord as a 3rd party program to sync and gain unfair advantages is not allowed.

However, theyve never took action against it.
Maybe they have forgotten their own rules

That is still an interpretation, unless Blizzard explicitly states that (which they haven’t, as far as I know :thinking:). Another interpretation of “unfair advantage”:

Queueing as a 5-players-group with Discord to communicate could also be considered an “unfair advantage”. Most of you would not call it “breaking CoC” though, right?

Group-Syncing in epic BGs has been a thing since Alterac valley was introduced, so I don’t think Blizzard will actively do anything against it (at least they haven’t in the last 20 years).
Queueing RBG with 10 meta classes (2 healers + 8 boomies) could also be considered an “unfair advantage”.

As far as I know these communities, that is not really the motivation… ^^
Don’t get me wrong, I completely agree that syncing generates frustration and is more bad than good for the PvP ecosystem. But everyone is looking to get the most out of it their own way, whatever their goal is. In PvP there will always be someone better for some reason. IF sync-premade stops tomorrow, this forum will be filled with threads about the next balance reasons why people keep losing: 5-man groups, gearing, meta-classes, talents, etc. I surely will open threads why prot pala is unplayable in Battlegrounds… :sob:

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But again:

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So you can understand it, but because it doesnt say “sync premade not allowed” you believe its allowed simply because it doesnt exactly state that.
So even if by chance every syncer gets banned, they know what they got into.

So you quoted something and used it for something else?
Using discord to circumstance the queing system to get synced into the same BG is against CoC. Sad to say but its quite easy to understand, if ppl still dont understand that part… :person_shrugging:
Its like ppl saying “I can steal this because theres nothing telling me I cant steal exactly that”.

And more ppl quit. I guess thats a job well done. :+1:

They are not doing it for any other motivation than their own fun by ruining it for others.
While they are doing it because they have fun, at the same time they are destroying it for even more ppl.
So while they “love the game” they also “hate it” because they see no issues ruining it for everyone they deem not part of their group. Quite simple.

People will abuse whatever they can to get advantage sure. Its also why I said blizz just give a slap on the wrist to exploiters or abusers unless its quite extreme.
Blizz are slacking quite alot on that department.
As far as we all know, before they felt like they “Had to change” toxicity were alot more acceptable in many forms even when they themselves had the rules you couldnt be toxic.
So they made the “Social Rules” for people who didnt even know about it.

So posts like the ones about sync premades are ment to force blizz to choose what they want the game to be in epic bg directions.
A good game, or a trash game?
Being on the side of sync premade are extremely boring and being against one is extremely frustrating.
I could do epic bgs every now and then and have fun when it wasnt as often, and then randomly get stuck in 5 sync premades in a row which just made me question why even que up. Quite sure im not the only one.

People will always complain about any form of belief they have. Alot of people will also give false information based on what they believe to be the “truth”.
Alot of people enjoy lying, I try to avoid doing that as much as possible since I see it as cringe. But as the norm, anyone can be wrong.
I dont care about normal premades even when I dont even engage in it myself (mostly because I have no PvP friends lol). But I can also see frustrations based on what they face while having nothing on their team.

Do I believe its unfair to face a premade while having none? Yes. Is it to the point of breaking CoC? No. Since you can literally que up ingame as a 5 man premade.
Syncing in that way is entirely different.
You cant que up as a raid. But people effectively que up as a raid. Thats pathetic.

This is true. But as the same time if people dont “vent” on the forums, blizz wont feel like they have to do something about it.
The worse it becomes, the faster blizz have to act on their own rules.

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Blizzard loses long-time customers because of sync premades but since they have chosen to neglect anything related to battlegrounds, they don’t care. However, they have stated that they will pay attention to battlegrounds next expansion so let’s use our consumer voices to make them deal with syncers. It would take a minimum time of development to just break the sync.

The syncers could of course pitch syncing to bring new customers to Blizzard.

Come play with us! We circumvent in-game mechanics to roflstomp players until they quit the game. We get no rewards and face no challenges, so we get no dopamine effects. It’s so boring that players on the same team quit the game. If anyone complains, we mass report. BUT you get to hang out with all of us on Discord. We’ll be your new friends.

This was posted 2024-07-20 at 15:32 CET.

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everytime i hear the “u know how many thank us and are happy to play with us ?”

it has to be 10% of the people u actually make quit pvp.

for every bg u win with sync, 2 bgs are lost
1 is the enemy team
and 1 is the tream that didn’t get u and has only 20 players and loses instantly (most people think it sjust omg blizzard matchmaking) but it all boils down to sync declining on mass.
so yeah
tldr
Every bg win = 2 bg lost.

feel free to discuss it below premade folks, i ain’t gonna discuss it

I mean, they are full aware that they are a problem.
They are just not willing to stop doing what they do because they need it for self-esteem and enjoyment I guess?
“Its frustrating to play against us, we make ppl quit playing, we know we are an issue but we will still keep doing it because blizz didnt state in their rules: Sync-premade not allowed.” Its quite amazing how egocentric they are.
Its fact that they dont care about the wellbeing for the game. Otherwise they wouldnt engage in breaking CoC while pretending they are not. Its the exact same thing exploiters do, they dont care about the game as long as they get enjoyment from it.

If they had any form of morals they wouldnt sync-premade.
While doing it they already show they lack it.

They do not care about random battlegrounds even though it is and has been the most popular form of PvP since its introduction. They only care about rated PvP.

It’ll never get fixed because they simply do not care.

They know healers ruin pvp, they’ll just tell you to go play ranked

They know premades ruin pvp, they’ll just tell you to go play ranked

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ah see? u can say good stuff every now and then

Difference is I try not to act like a hypocrite or act like one thing is fair while the other is not depending how it benefits me.

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Yeah, 1 thankful noob for 9 leaving experienced players seems correct. If you mock them, they mass report, of course the only thing they will ever see is that noob thanking them. Our own game-version of Gestapo has seen to it that only thankful noobs say anything.

I find the horde sync cowards so disgusting I mostly level allies for my army. I don’t want to play with morally deranged people. I hope all sync cowards turn back to horde after new expansion, so I can choose to play ally.

I have some hope after seeing that video (https://youtu.be/q2tU3c-V_Pc?si=T3V6hMWbx-cEH_8q&t=1217). I’m guessing it’s all down to middle management priorities. Since battlegrounds haven’t died even though they have done nothing to keep them alive for many years, maybe they have had to rethink their priorities.

This was posted 2024-07-20 at 23:06 CET.

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premade queue syncers use an addon to make groups queue at the same time, if one of the groups doesn’t get the queue pop they leave the queue, wait 2 minutes and queue again, you can see larkus doing it all the time on his stream

the easiest way to remove 90% of queue syncing is to make it so if you don’t accept the queue you get an account-wide deserter, this will likely stop queue syncing, but not affect the people who want to queue as a 5 man group

i’m not sure if blizzard would do this though

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The video dont really say anything in general with what they want to do with BGs, only about them wanting rated blitz to be one of their main endgame PvP basically.
So unless they actually have a change of mindset to fix normal casual BG/Epic bgs nothing will happen even if we hope so.
I can be wrong, but its not likely Ion will bother to fix the casual BG situation and just let both horde and alliance syncers keep breaking the rules. Dont ask me why since I have no clue why blizz just lets it happen.

Both horde and alliance syncers are cowards and disgusting. I dont look at one side and say “You are worse” when they are both equal due to both of them breaking the rules.
I personally enjoy Alliance more and cant wait for hopefully void elf paladins so I can finally faction change it from blood elf → void elf.
If it even happens its most likely in Midnight or never.

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Maybe I’m a naïve optimist. The way he says “it’s a bit overdue honestly” as if they just forgot battlegrounds for decades, instead of purposedly neglecting them. It makes me think there’s been some internal struggle about the issue and now they do a corporate “oops” for the public.

Objectively you are right. I cannot be objective though. The sync cowards that still play horde make my stomach turn. They are like a sect of morally deranged cowards. They use “randoms” as a derogatory word because they despise non-cheaters. They despise people that enjoy pvp on equal terms. For them it’s not about pvp, it’s about boosting their egos by socially controlling the epics. They do the middle school bullying routine as adults, as a hobby. And they’re proud of it.

Also, I would definitely make a void elf paladin if that was possible. :smiley:

This was posted 2024-07-21 at 13:39 CET.

Theres nothing wrong with that though, I sometimes have hope aswell. But the realistic part with me kinda say they wont do anything until theres only syncers left playing epic bgs.
But I also have some form of hope that they will open their eyes and wake up and do something about this situation fully.

That entire line kinda fits any form of sync premade though…
They are not doing it for other people, they are doing it for themselves.

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The new BG looks good fun, even if still just a mish-mash of what we already have, a new spin on it will be nice. Just hoping they aren’t just talking like politicians before the election, promising this and delivering not much at all. It really can’t be too hard to design a few new maps, plenty other games have mods for exactly that so should be simple for Blizzard

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Another optimist. :slight_smile: They can’t be like politicians, they don’t have a couple of years until the next election. You’re right, just a minimum of effort from Blizzard’s side could make everything so much better.

And if they don’t fix the sync premades, which would be so easy, I’ll start a report-the-cheaters-campaign to get Blizzard’s attention. It will be easier as ally.

This was posted 2024-07-22 at 00:34 CET.

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Ofc first bg of the day is another pathetic pandora premade :yawning_face: :yawning_face: :yawning_face: :yawning_face: :yawning_face:

Why even bother anymore sigh

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U should report ally also , they far more premades then horde. Unless u suport alliance premades.

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