not even close, most games top1 dmg is virrulent plague top2 autoattack
maybe becauseâŠ
hmmâŠ
maybe thatâs because
just maybe
because details doesnât include necrotic strike absorb?
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thatâd mean Details would show 50% less damage done by DK than end-of-arena overall details windowâŠ
it doesnât
but it does exactly that? especially against high HP classes like destro
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Well, I donât think itâs 50% (which means arena scoreboard would show double amount of damage compared to details).
Also: As mentioned before, itâs pseudo damage. If you hit a target with 100% and druid hots, you donât deal any damage, but the scoreboard shows the absorbed overhealing as damage.
To be fair, details also shows dmg on pets, which scoreboard doesnât.
Necrotic Strike counts as damage since it has to be healed. Whether Skada/Recount or whatever counts it doesnât matter, the arena scoreboard does.
Based on that logic, MS should be shown on the scoreboard as well - maybe they should, so Warriors stop crying. 
But still a logic issue: Explain the example with NS counting as damage when absorbing overheal - overheal has no value.
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Theyâre not the same.
MS = Static value that just reduces the healing the target receives. Youâll see it when you look at the opponent healerâs numbers.
NW = Dynamic and is quite literally just âdamageâ that doesnât actually hurt you. Whether you deal 25k damage or 25k healing absorption is the same, except absorption isnât lethal.
Not the same, but quite similar. It only matters if the healer has to outheal dmg, but thatâs the same with NS. If the dk only stacks NS but no dmg follows, the healer donât have to heal anything - it still counts as damage if he does.
Example: A destro lock drops to 200k hp (50%) and has MS up (25% heal reduction), so the healer has to heal not only the 200k to bring him back to 400k HP, but additionally another 50k for the MS effect.
Same example with NS: 200k HP, 50k NS absorb. Healer has to spend 250k heal to bring him back to 100% hp.
Only difference is, that he has to go through NS completely before he does any heal, MS is just reducing any healing done by 25%. Also NS can be prestacked, MS canât.
Anyways, if you count NS as dmg because it has to be healed, MS is damage as well, since it also has to be healed, right?
The healer would have to heal 250k whether he had a 50k NW on him or had taken 50k damage. There is no difference.
Mortal Wounds on the other, just flat out reduces healing received by 25%, regardless of value. The effect of this debuff is dependant on the number that would have been dished out by a healing source.
You can count it as âdamageâ if you want, but you can track it by simply looking at the scoreboard at the end of a match, and watch one healer have 10M healing and the other 7.5M healing.
can u please show me where is top ?at m+ raid 2s 3s rbgs ? DH literally dominates the game its top at everywhere TBH arms is in a decent viable state at middle of the pack i rate it 3.6
And you donât think itâs quite similiar? If you actually have to outheal a 50k absorb or have to heal 50k more because your heals are doing less - for me itâs kinda both the same. So why is one counting as damage (even when itâs only absorbing overheal) and the other is just not shown?
Sure, you already explained me your pov, I just donât agree with it. ^^
And how would you rate it, if it wouldnât be your main?! 
After the minor buffs it will be not great but now its not terrible
Oh just st fu. Arms is more than viable in PvP.
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Unholy dk will remain good. Thats my opinion tho. Weâve seen dks spec out of necrotic strike and still do good in tournaments against mirrors/rogue mage.
Sure its the top players but it still means something. Against destro locks, it wont matter that much honestly. The abomination already has like 90% uptime on a lock & necrotic strike is litteraly the biggest weakness/counter (even if it was actually nerfed to the ground it would still be good against locks).
Idk if its still the case but an increase of 5% in damage might offset the necro nerf anyway so meh.
Theres always people who will jump to say âx class is deadâ regardless of anything in patch notes. Id wait for the changes to go live and then try a few arenas before writing an essay on how UHDK is dead in the water. Especially since theres specs who are totally unplayable and even with those nerfs on paper, DK overrall would remain stronger than them by far.
Well Arms was always viable at pvp im just a bit excited that we get buffed
Itâs actually terrible for the rest of us
Well i dont feel sorry for dh and pala but for rest of classes especially cloth and leather users i say unintended
Scoreboard does show damage of pets.
I donât think we did.
They just didnât take Necrotic Strike PvP talent.
Because Conflict and Strife gives them NS for free.