Classic is DISASTROUS for retail

Because some people care a lot more about gameplay than graphics? Makes perfect sense to me. Not like WoW is a game I’d say has graphics pushing what hardware can push these days. That wasn’t even true back then either.

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Actually the timing couldn’t be better since there is a lot that are not happy with current WoW and I myself would have been unsubribed

I always liked leveling and now it feels like an adventure rather than a chore

I guess people that is used to get everything that it’s given to them on a silverplate wouldn’t understand why old players prefer classic where on retail it’s all about endgame rather than the community and adventure of the whole game. On quests for example you don’t get a big fat marker where you are supposed to go and mindless killing mobs while yawning yourself to death than actually read and understand where you are supposed to go. Players are actually nice to eachother and buff random players that is walking by just because it’s a nice thing to do where me myself are giving water and mana pots to casters that buffs me if I have them in my bags

To bad so many players that has grown up on retail don’t see the charm of interaction with other players in an mmo where on retail players just walk past everyone minding there own business and is rather hosile than nice to other players

Ye, classic is bad

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Source please for that number .

Only thing I agree with you about .

When I have played recently on classic that is so far from the truth its sad to see how people are the community is just the same as retail both can be very bad and both can be very nice but please don’t paint classic as angels far from it .

I really don’t know what you’re talking about. BfA has actually been incredibly fun for me recently. Not sure why, but wPvP has been crazy, especially around Nazjatar. We just finished a battle a little while ago. Surprisingly Horde crushed the Alliance for a change, so it was a nice change of pace. I got bounty hunted again… a group of Alliance chased me all the way from a supply drop on one side of the map, all the way back to newhome where I dismounted and quickly thunderstormed them all off the cliff. They were yelling in their common tongue, so I’m not sure what they were saying, but I’m sure it was juicy.
BfA can be good, but it just depends on where you find your fun. And for me, Classic has had literally zero impact.

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I have played classic for countless of hours in the past and a few after release and the hostility have always been greater when players dont need to interact with others than guildies

No need to ask, when a search will do just fine.

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Grainnes detective work showed its just a copy/pasta. I skim read it but it referred to 8.2 which shows its kind of old.

Time will also tell but Classic feels like a bit of an own goal. It’s taken people out of BfA which means people can’t fill raid teams which takes people out of BfA. It’s like the opposite of a virtuous circle. In couple of weeks when people have hit max level in Classic and finished grinding kobold nutsacks or whatever it is people do in Classic they’ll go back to Retail and realise their raid teams died and leave too.

Of course they’ll be those people who stick by Classic, describing in glee how much fun it is to spend 3 hours slogging to a dungeon and how their community is ace, while unironically slagging off Retail players in terms that would make a sailor blush.

Anyway, I probably would not have come here but you kinda made me! I don’t normally get too deep into Classic threads. Rubbing in my inevitable “rightness” when I’m proved right would be too time consuming and I’m already a disagreeable cretin, being a smug disagreeable cretin might be a step too far!

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Tbh, I stop playing classic because it’s just a nostalgia game for some and it doesn’t have a progression like on retail ( you are stuck in vanilla version of wow like forever). TBC, might release on the the classic server or it may have separate one. So, one may argue that it as progression but the truth is, it doesn’t have, beacuse it’s outdated and not many would invest in classic at a long run.

So, investing my time on classic is a waste for me. On retail, there is player progression as plenty of expansions are getting released soon like wise the graphics are passable and the character models of the new allied races and old, is what solid me off in the first place compared to classic.

Now, don’t get the wrong! I love classic but let’s not fool overself here, it’s outdated. I had a blast on classic, I had great adventure in that game but as time moves on, the game becomes more forgetable than something that’s released recently to the MMORPG market by which retail WoW offers it.

I wanted a remaster version of vanilla for wow, with the latest graphic. But it won’t happen as blizzard are to be too busy milking players of old content or re-releasing old games to the market.

So, NO! … Classic wont kill retail in the long run.

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Classic is good for Blizz. Brings the money in for future projects, WoW included.

“Current” expansion is always the worst. That’s the law of WoW.

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Some let you get on with LFR and your key 6+.

Thats what i call a great game.

Classic right now is mostly just hype, many peoples are playing it… coz its big gaming event, why shouldnt they play it, even if game is overrated. Dont get me wrong, both game versions have its pros and cons but, for me… overall classic feels pointless in long term. There wont be any new expansions besides copypaste old content, visually it feels outdated which takes another piece of fun away, there arent many good features which only make game more enjoyable and big chunk of world is gone. Long term its not really worth time investing, in other hand we have retail with its upcomming changes and expansions (note that classic may help in retail features). If classic was remaster of WoW… Ill would play it day and night, sadly its not.

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Classic is already cooling down.
I track twitch viewers (which is one of the biggest things to make classic actually so popular, if not for the influencers there, it wouldn’t be so played at all) and they decline rapidly with every day.
I check every day at the same hours. Starting from like 120k in monday, now it’s around 80k. That’s 40k drop in the span of 4 days and every day was lower than the previous.
For me, as one who have played classic when it was released it has 0 appeal to offer.
Actually, as much as BFA is crap, classic made me evaluate more, how good it is actually in many regards.
Classic was great when I played it at release, but that was in another time, been there, done that, nothing interesting in it now. On the contrary, old, stale and slow mechanics, boring mob grinds, running simulator. Five minutes into watching autoattacks and I just log out and start a good single player RPG instead.
For me, it actually destroyed my whole WoW experience, as I have a friend we played retail with, now he tries classic. I see him playing it less and less, but we don’t play retail either now.
So I agree with OP, release of classic is detrimental for the game in the long run. But Blizzard are now in the business of fast money grabs and casino RNG boxes, they don’t care.
And unless they release something good in BFA, soon, they will have a game with dying functions on both sides.

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So gone from the 1.2 million to 80/90k in space of two weeks no wonder the thread that was being spammed by the classic lover’s hasn’t been bumped for a while .

Indeed. I just started tracking it this week, as in the beginning I supposed everything would be just too erratic, but that counts too, yes.
And though the initial rapid decline from this huge number was normal and to be expected, now the steady fast decline is more indicative.
I actually logged in retail 2 days ago and Boralus is no more the ghost town it was on first days of classic release.
Looked quite as usual before release (at least on that server where I logged).
The decline in retail is also present though, hence the miserable state both games seems to be moving into atm.

Thank you :slight_smile: I noticed the same thread has popped up on classic forums as well by the same person yet on an alt and they have been making baiting threads all day on different alts shame really .

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from mins 2.00

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I have friends that quit and uninstalled classic after clearing MC with no wipes in pug groups.
They are back on retail now.

So nah, i think OP is wrong, classic makes players realize that alot have improved over 15 years.
There is still ALOT of stuff to improve in retail tho, hopefully shadowlands will be good.

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I don’t know if before playing it, ppl realised that classic is nothing more but huge grind and gear check.
There was nothing interesting and challenging, bar the gear grind, in those raids. There were 1,2 simple mechanics that M+ now would make them look like child’s play.
That’s just a game from another era. Especially now, when all the info is on one net search away, as opposed to having to try and learn it mostly on your own, back in the day, there is nothing interesting and challenging there.
It’s all a hollow boring grind.

blizard will sell so many 120 euro backpacks that it wont matter :slight_smile: