Cyrillic (Russian) names and apparent issues related to it

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Lucikly, my own attitude towards russians have changed greatly the last couple of years. I see an increasinga mount of them now, and I hate to admit I am one of those people who has been very reserved against them for years(I am a very tolerant person who doesn’t like to judge people), but they’ve made me feel uneasy(annoyed) a lot over the years, and it got hard keeping my mind clear eventually. Luckily, my experiences with them has bee getting better and better since Legion.

I can still sign these points though;

I am honestly unable to learn their names because I cannot read their letters. We had a russian rogue/priest with us in raids for some months in Legion(friend of a guildie), and hardly anyone managed to learn his name. We kept calling him “The russian”, and to this day I still don’t remember his name properly after having it said on Voice a few times. I feel terrible.

This is very frustrating. Can’t tell them appart. I can’t tell the cyrillic names on the forums appart either. I might have learned one now, that I have encountered in several threads. I recognize him through the way he posts, and I think he is a green orc, or zandalari. I am so sorry. I am not even sure if it’s the same person, but I think his personality is enough for me to tell him appart(do you know who you are when I describe you…?)

This is smply not true. At latest this month, I found out one of the people I was on voice with, is russian. I could never have told. There wasn’t even a dent of russian accent there. I think this was one of the people from the Scared of Dungeons community. This has been the case a few times the last months too. Russians seems to be either as good as other europeans at english, or not… pretty much like any nationality. Problem is, you can’t tell the good ones appart unless they have a cyrillic name.

This one is hillarious. We’ve beaten the crap out of “russian premades” in Korrak’s several times. Everyone is terrified when they see the full oposing team are all russians, then they start to realize they’re pretty bad at the game, and this stigma might actually be dying at this point.

It would be greatly appreciated. If they are going to be merged with english realms, they really need letters we can understand, type and read. Otherwise they might aswell be displayed without names.

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Why do anyone of us have names again…?

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I also like RU community more. They are more easy going if you will. Less dramatic in group content. And it might be just my luck, but also more tolerant. For example I always actually do respond to things typing English because I am bad at writing “latin-russian” and I have no Cyrllic board or language setting on my win.

It is different community and I actually preffer it for both my language community (that is too small, full of drama and too unreliable) and open-international one (that seems to be offended over everything - be it RIO, your transmog or your name).

Not played in RU realms in bFA since my RU characters are Horde and I truly despise Horde side of BfA plot so haven’t managed to force myself to do that.

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…but I can’t?

The letters have no sound to me. I see an A in your name, and the number 3(which I know is suppose to be a letter), but the rest of your name has no sound tied to the sign(letter). I can’t read it. It’s nothing but a picture to me. Like a tribal marking.

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‘Azriil’ - is the name :slight_smile:

I am not against the idea of having ‘transcribed’ name variants in CRZ situations. I just feel that it is not players own task to fix or burden self with.

Google translate has ‘transcription’ system in place. Blizzard can go ask how google does it.

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Yeah… that’s like… How do you make Азриил into Azriil? :sweat_smile: I managed to copy your name into my post. That’s a start!

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‘looks left, and loks right, and pulls Aylish close and whispers’

Ssssssh! Ssseecret. While I can speak and understand Russian, then I have no keyboard to support their fancy letters.

So I opened google translate, opened random Latin based language window in one, and RU in other, and then typed a name, and saw google attempt to transcribe it. It got it wrong, and 1st 2 variants were taken by other players.

Then I had to copy name to notepad (direct copy didn’t work!)- so I guess it was so that my windows would attach proper “letter codes” to the RU name; and then I copied that to Blizzard char screen.

Best is when I try to delete items in-game I must always get my удалить ‘udalit’ (delete) copied from google too.

That’s how you make Azriil into Азриил in order to play!

‘giggles’

And then you log on forums and least once or twice a week someone insults you believing you Russian.

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I understand what you mean, but the fact that it’s a basic requirement and also gives you a handicap for the rest of the european community (it’s aknown issue) let me think if they shouldn’t introduce it.

You translate letter to letter.

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Yeah… I can’t do that on the fly.

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Although now the question is - how difficult would it be implement the transcription of names ? I know that Blizzard has nice feature that, when you link items from other clients and you click on them you get item names in own language client; and then when you look on forums here my realm name is English, but it is listed (and fully translated) in-game for me. So I believe Blizzard actually has already “logic” and examples that they can use to change ability to read russian names. But I cannot say how hard it would be implement real-time transcription.

I think real time transcription would actually be cool. And unique.

I firmly believe that it is not RU players problem. Likewise I do not think Swedish players should be burdening themselves if I can read their Ö’s and Õ’s (ok thats not swedish letters, but point remains).

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Hey, I didn’t thought you want to know some superpowers here. it’s just how it’s translated.

Fair enough. Maybe it would be the most ideal feature. I mean it shouldn’t be hard to be able the single letters into the latin alphabet.

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Sneeks closer and listen to the conversation
Writes the conversation down
“Broccoli factory jumps on cats”

Whispers “I see, that’s the secret behind the win rate from the cyrillic letters - now we got them”

Sneaks back to watch Oldmanbarry from a distance

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That, and/or the russians could be able to make a english version of their name to show when they go cross realm? Instead of just a random translate?

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It does, because it makes you recognize players quicker in both PvE and PvP. And for future reference.

As I said, I struggle telling the cyrillic names apart, since I can’t read it. Same would be the case for chinese letters, or arabic etc. They become nothing but random lines to me, like a tribal tattoo or something, and the difference is too minor for me to quickly identify or remember it well enough to identify each name.

I’d appreciate it if they had a system in place to offer us a version of their name with the “european” alphabet. I don’t see why we can’t have this.

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I don’t know. I agree it could be a nice feature but why would someone write her/his name in a foreign alphabet in the first place? I don’t see the point.

RU realms use Cyrillic alphabet because most people that roll on those realms can understand it and read it.

I think it would be a bit confusing especially for those who don’t speak/know English (since you don’t need to know English if you roll on a RU realm in my opinion).

If English speakers want to understand Cyrillic names then perhaps learn the Cyrillic alphabet first.

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Because the rule is that Swedes hate fellow Swedes.

Can confirm as a Swede.

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People often opt for the easy route and place blame where it’s not due.
I don’t blame Russian players for using Cyrillic letters, I have issues with players from my own realms too who use alt codes to name characters.

It’s a problem for me in Epic Bgs (also other bgs but not too this extent) when I cannot do /tar (name), I often target specific players for CC’s/control, I can set focus on one player but aside from this it’s an incredible pain, simple solution for me is to let me shift click from the leaderboard and have their name automatically go to my chat box.

Targetting is important, I see many people in the post think this is trivial but it’s litterally the only issue I take. I’ll break it down a bit.

It’s just easier, I’m not one who believes grammar and punctuation and such to be important in wow, what is important is reading comprehension and that the most players possible understand me, this is just one way to make things clearer, sometimes.

I don’t recruit Russian players in mythics unless they approach me via /w and express understanding. Too often prior I would accept Russian players who don’t read my description, they then proclaim people idiots when we don’t have a picture perfect run and I refuse to reward people with these attitudes, have left many mythics because of it, learning to tank mythics has been a chore because of people neglecting to read descriptions and just want a 20minute super speed runs when I clearly list my group as wanting to learn and improve, not an experienced stomp.

Kinda covered this at the start of my post. Not so much an issue in rated for me but in randoms, when you are trying to communicate with a bunch of other randoms? It can become tough, particularly when there is multiple players of the same class/role.

Until they speak directly to me I’ll assume they are incapable, I don’t assume this for all Russian players until they have done so, this isn’t specific either as I assume most are equally incompetent until they tell me otherwise directly lol.

I need to clear my HDD, I have many videos where I qued random and we end up farming russians at their GY, it’s a common misconception that russians are all premades and that they are genetically engineered to be wow gods.

Never bothered, there is a rare time where I have wanted to look players up and not been able to due to their names but as mentioned it’s not exlusive to Russians, infact it’s more of a problem with alt code names on my own realm(s).

I actually wish we was grouped against Chinese/American and other groups but I imagine the ping would not lead to a great experience.

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99% accurate

You’re on my hate list now

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Right back at ya.

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I dont believe they can. There’s a separate Russian client and realms, and subscription; they just connect to the Europe realms. Once upon a time Russian had it’s own region.