It truly is. For pretty much my entire WoW playtime BG queu’s have been instant or near instant. That tells me people love their bg’s.
Nothing from Blizz all those years. No new BG ,no adressing the issues, just nothing.
Unfortunatly I know some Alli players that have quit because the premade garbage. And we’re at the point now where players at start see certain premade names and half the group leaves before match even starts. Even in non epics bg’s I find myself IN a premade half of the time. Wich is just not fun because it’s so effin cringe. It’s only fun very early in the morning when not a lot of their minions are online. It’s fun to see them rage and moan in chat at 6 in the morning spamming /rw and crying that no ones listening (because people literally just opened their eyes and drinking coffee and think just do a random bg for fun) When I wake up grab coffee and log on WoW I just want to have some fun in bg. Not see a handfull tryhards spam /rw every 2secs for a random casual game mode that has zero requirements to join…
I think the sync premade situation is somewhat better. They mostly don’t play at nights and they are fewer. The fun thing is, they don’t really work with fewer than 3 full groups.
Was in Wintergrasp with a sync premade silent mob without a leader. After taking sunken and 1 wall down they all stayed zerging at base while allies took workshops, towers and won. The silent mob has zero strategy without a leader.
Was in IoC with a sync premade leader having only 1-2 groups. IoC takes a lot of explaining for newcomers as horde. And apparently, newcomers don’t follow orders given without explanation, so the allies won. The leaders can only lead with 3 full groups of silent mob blindly obeying orders.
And to the sync premades, please don’t feel bad. You are really good when fighing randoms and you have 3 full groups. Bravo!
True, I was in a EBG premade this morning and not enough minions where online to have multiple groups so no one listened and everyone got annoyed by the /rw spam lol. We lost. Next one same premade leader. We are 27vs 40 so we have no chance of winning. that didn’t stop the leader from spamming cringe /rw every 2secs. Annoying everyone again. And I’m talking 6-7 in the morning here so people are extra annoyed by the spam and barking of orders lol. At this point it’s laughable how hard they go in a gamemode you can basically queu for entirely naked with a fishingpole equipped. Bravo indeed.
Permanently ban premade abusers. The amount of times I have had my gameplay experience sabotaged by a forced lose thanks to premaders is disgraceful.
Actively avoiding restrictions put in place to get more than 5 players into a single BG should not be tolerated. Organised PvP exists in the form of rated BGs. Premading does not belong in random battlegrounds.
That is why big premades exist. Nobody listening to leaders solo queueing or more experienced players which literally tell them how to win. Thank you for proving the point why premades should stay available to players who actually want teamplay.
Then give them feedback on why they should do it.
Give them more reasons to make it worse.
As the saying goes: Some ppl just wants to watch the world burn.
I gave feedback. To get players in your team who actually enjoy teamplay and avoid randos who actively throw the games or afk/leave willy-nilly or show up in pandaria green quest rewards and expect to get free honor for their alts while making the experience for everyone else in the group worse. That is more than enough reasons, tbh.
That’s not true. The horde sync premade leaders are simply poor leaders, they can only lead if they have 3 full groups of an obedient silent mob.
I was in IoC with one of the sync premade “leaders” and he only had 1-2 groups of obedient silent mob, but he still did his usual rw macros. Ofc no one listened to him because that’s not how you lead randoms in IoC as horde. With allies having map advantage, you must explain a LOT. To not blindly follow orders without understanding why is healthy!
As for the nighttime horde sync premades, they keep picking new noob leaders that all use copy-pasted rw-macros, and of course it works because of the synced 3 full groups.
If you want to teamplay there is a game mode for that, do rated. The reason sync premades don’t do rated is they are not interested in “teamplay”. They want to stomp random and:
Why would I need to counter something when you cant even understand “cause and effect”?
“I see no issues, so we can make them even worse because I still see no issues”.
If pre sync was allowed you would been able to que up as a raid. Simple isnt it?
Quite sure they even wintrade in RBGs for the rewards, or atleast I wouldnt be surprised if they did.
No, rated is not the only game mode that is for teamplay. Rated is the game mode that is meant to get balanced games and as the name suggests, rating. Random bgs are not. Maybe you should play rated? If you are so concerned with premades having an advantage over random groups. It does not matter how good a leader is if the group does not listen. Which they quite often don’t. The problem is that horde leaders have to lead AND carry at the same time with meta classes because horde randoms quite often do no damage or healing whatsoever.
And I am sure you have proof for that? No, of course not. Just keep whining in the forums maybe you get your will in the end. I don’t even care, I am a solo player myself. All I know is that game quality is going to go down drastically when premades disappear. Might as well just remove random bgs altogether at that point and everybody rolls a dice when they queue to automatically either get a win or a lose. Because that is what players like you probably want. No effort. Just queue randoms and get carried by other randos, which they unfortunately can’t against a premade. Everybody actually has to play the game to win. Can’t have that.
Proof of what? You literally quoted the entire thing and I said 2 different ones.
Proof that you dont understand? How you write is the living proof.
Proof about pre sync not being allowed? Exploiting the system to get several parties into one epic bg while making a raid and que up cant be done?
Proof that they are wintrading? I dont have proof for it, also why I afterwards said “or atleast I wouldnt be surprised if they did”.
So you would not have any kind of issues being in no premade group vs a 40 man fully geared epic bg with 100% chance to loose and being stomped on while graveyard camping or something like it?
I always play solo and I don’t do death matches. I think pvp without objectives is boring.
I’m concerned about my hobby. I work full time and they destroy my hobby. I used to tell them:
I’m off to play solitaire. It’s more thrilling and less pathetic than multi-group premade against random casuals.
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Have you multi-group premade guys tried Comp Stomp? It’s perfect for those afraid of pvp on equal terms. It’s mind-numbingly boring but you always win.
And that’s why they try to get me banned.
This was on the top when I googles leadership
Leadership is the ability of an individual or a group of people to influence and guide followers or members of an organization, society or team .
You are talking about the kind of leadership used in totalitarian states, when ppl must behave as an obedient silent mob even if the “leader” use copy-pasted statements.
No, I don’t have an issue with being against a premade group, because if I want to be in a premade group myself then there is nothing stopping me to join them. But that is too much effort for some people, me included. I just want to play solo. But I am not whining about the consequences that are a result of my lack of effort to join a premade community.
