As the title says. How long would it take to travel from SW to IF IC via the deeprun tram? What about by horseback, how would it compare? A fair few people who RP in Stormwind RP their houses in Ironforge, is the travel time between the two cities IC short enough to allow this to be reasonable? I’m curious.
Ask Cathode, she’ll know.
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I’d say no more than an hour or so. You can get from Europe to Great Britain in like what, 30-40 minutes using the sea tunnel?
Lets be generous and say the tram is much slower, it’d still take no more than lets say 3 to 4 hours.
If it took a lot of time to travel to IF via the tram then they wouldn’t have built it in the first place.
Its definitely a commutable journey each day I’d reckon. Gelbin Mekkatorque is pretty stoked about how much of a success it was, and given he invented it, he should know. I’d agree with Sainur, an hour seems like a perfectly respectable idea as to how log it would take, I mean its not as quick as in game, I mean that would be travelling at several times the speed of Concorde or even a Scramjet, neither of which you would want to do when there aren’t even seats or handrails! If it was as quick as it is in game, then to use it =death, and I’m pretty sure Gelbin wouldn’t be as proud as he is of it, if it was just a very efficient method of killing civilians. Equally it has to be appreciably faster than the actual journey by horseback would take, otherwise he wouldn’t have decided one day to invent it, especially given the likely cost it would have taken to actually -build- the thing. Takes me one hour to get from my house to London, and I -can- do that whilst standing in the train, not holding on to a railing for dear life. I reckon 1 hour from Stormwind to Ironforge is pretty fair, aye.
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Strong magnets that keep ya bum down!
Legit a fair point. No hang on, how is a magnet going to hold my bum down! I don’t have a metal bum! Also can we just take a moment to rejoice in the fact that for a language with so many varied, and interesting words, so many tools for oratory, weapons to send to war in terms of speeches, we still nonetheless, have the word ‘bum’ for something we sit on. Or rather, something intrinsic to the sitting process…
The Shinkansen ride from Tokyo to Kyoto takes 2-3 hours; since Ironforge and Stormwind are both major capitals, I’d say that would be a fair comparison. It’s definitely more than just an hour… that’s the difference between a center of a large city and its suburbs, way too close, unless the tram is insanely fast.
The distance between Tokyo and Kyoto is ~500km. A horse travels ~50km a day (based on Google), which would mean it’d take ~10 days to travel between the two cities; although I think there’s far more terrain between Stormwind and Ironforge, even if you purely count the mountains and not the murderous Blackrocks and dragons and the deadly volcano. If you go around the more peaceful route through the Badlands and Redridge, I’d say that would easily up the journey to 20-30 days; so a caravan taking a month to move between the cities seems like a good estimate.
Cutting that down to 2-3 hours is pretty sweet, I’d say.
I always saw the Tram as insanely fast IC as well as Out. Probably gets a bit of whiplash. Bit of a challenge to be a passenger and Rp at the same time for an hour…
I don’t feel like it should take much longer than it does in game. If you look at the map, there really is not much distance the tram actually travels. And the speed it has makes perfect sense. Run speed, mounted speed, flight speed is all pretty realistic. It cant really be compared to the distance between France and England. Because Azeroth is quite small. Not even a fraction of what Earth is.
You can literally run from Stormwind to Ironforge in less than that though. And run time should be realistic.
But it’s not. The game world is shrunk down to keep it fun, Azeroth is far larger than what can be reasonably displayed.
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No you can’t. You can probably RP-walk from Stranglethorn to EPL in a few hours of game time, that doesn’t mean it actually goes that fast in the lore / RP. It would take days if not longer to travel from Stranglethorn to EPL, and as the dead cow said, actual Azeroth is larger than what we’re playing in.
Hell, that reminds me, in some dorf events I’ve partaken in, it took multiple days (close to a full week) for us to travel from the Searing Gorge, to Burning Steppes and then taking the pass into Swamp of Sorrows. Saying you can run from Stormwind to Ironforge in less than 3-4 hours is ridiculous.
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How long did it take for the Alliance army to reach Undercity for the big battle? Is there any solid lore on this?
To me it felt like the massive army pretty much just teleported in there with no delay or time required to muster forces. The fact they somehow just circled around all the Forsaken defenses and walked right up to their capital doesn’t make much sense to me either… Or does the Alliance have a massive fleet they could use to transport an entire army, siege equipment included, pretty much without resistance right into the heart of Horde territory?
I’ve always considered the tram to be such an amazing feat of technology that it doesn’t take very long to get between Stormwind and Ironforge. Since it’s designed to supply Stormwind with supplies and manpower from Ironforge in the event of another sacking, surely it’d be more efficient to stuff them through a portal, right?
But ultimately:
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My Gnome character commutes back and forth from her home in Ironforge to the Mage Tower in Stormwind every day, I always assumed it was quite quick, maybe twenty minutes?
I understand what you mean, but where do we have this in writing from the devs, lore writers? I’m not going to say that you are wrong. But I wonder if there is any proof to back this up.
That’s insane. We’re talking two major cities separated by a sea and mountain ranges here. Is the Deeprun Tram literally travelling faster than the speed of sound? Is it actually faster than an airplane?
The alternative explanation is that the two cities are actually really close together… the Channel Tunnel travel time is 20m, coast to coast, with the fastest train, and not counting boarding times. And I seriously doubt Ironforge and Stormwind are only 60km apart.
To me it makes perfect sense for the tram to be that fast. Although the Azeroth we see in game is shamefully not as big as it’s meant to be; it seems that the main boon of the tram genuinely is the fact that it is able to make the journey shorter by skipping the cliffs and mountains and going across the gap. The cities could well be quite close to each other, the tram is so fast because there is no danger like there would be for a gryphon and it doesn’t have to traverse the winding mountain passes and dangerous locales that someone travelling on foot or by carriage would have to.
Just by going what several books say, it’s easy to assume the world is a lot bigger in lore. Now I don’t remember which book it was, but I believe it was stated at some point that traveling Elwynn Forest takes several days.
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Don’t see why not! Other feats of gnomish engineering can do impossible things, like turn people into chickens, cut people down to size by shrinking them, go invisible and teleport.
The tram is considered to be a tremendous technical marvel even by gnomish standards - Though it’s fair to say that’s more for scale than function. I personally find that it’s easier to believe that the potential for it to be that fast while being (relatively) safe exists because it’s a fantasy contraption built by the best and brightest of the race that’s well-known to make mind-bendingly impossible technology.