Do you recommend sub for pvp/pve rn?

hi guys,

do you guys recommend sub right now? mostly fun wise…
I can’t pick between ret pally and sub rogue mostly for pvp.

I’m really curious about your opinion!

cheers

sub is meta in 2s and not really in 3s, but still very strong. definitely a good spec in pvp. but it is very different from ret pally (which is also good), so there’s a decision for you there.

sub is not very good in pve right now. it’s mediocre in sanctum and awful in nathria. in dungeons it’s decent but nothing special. gets consistently overshadowed by outlaw, which is a lot better generally speaking.

yes sub for pvp . outlaw for pve.

sub is pretty decent in PVE, but outlaw seems better atm, at least for raiding.

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