Dragonflight Druid Talents - Add your constructive feedback

[Whisperer-defias-brotherhood (Whisperer)]

I made a post on General forum about it.

DRAGONFLIGHT Feral Talents Feedback [also video]

it feels EXTREMELY bad to NEED to choose abilities in order to keep abilites you had previously baseline and that are mandatory (Cyclone, Interrupt / Skull Bash etc.) - those costs not one, but because of the need to pick mandatory talents in the direction multiple talent points, further amplifying the effect of baseline abilities prunned it feels EXTREMELY bad to need to spend talent points on something you don’t want and then you don’t have enough talent points to spend them on some fun a…

@Dorbs-ravencrest

Soothe and Hibernate should just be baseline for all specs. They are so situational that it feels like a waste to invest in them. While at the same time they should exist as they are very typical druid spells. I would even add Remove Curse to these two as baseline.

I agree. That’s one of my main concerns too.

@Dorbs-ravencrest

I am not a fan of automatic get out of jail free cards such as Well-Honed instincts. I would simply replace this for something else that could be used offensively (I feel that there’s already many defensive talents e.g. renewal).

I disagree with this one. I kinda think it’s necessary for PvP.

@Dorbs-ravencrest

Too many not-exciting options, especially in the first 75% of the tree. Probably because there are too few baseline spells. Also, many of the standard spells are split, which makes us spend points on things that we used to have and are not very exciting (e.g. Ironbark has three cells and a total of 5 points to get what we now already have).

I think this applies to many points. When getting to Cyclone or Interrupt, you pick boring physical damage increase or magic damage increase. For Feral Magical damage increase is mostly useless.
It feels bad, especially when you have to throw multiple points in.

@Tyranotaurus-dreadmist

I am super frustrated about these new talent trees.

me too

@Tyranotaurus-dreadmist

Those are totally unrelated things!!!

I hate this as well. For example in Feral Tree I have to pick Primal Wrath, although I know for sure that I will never use that ability, because I play PvP.
That feels super bad. Especially when you’d rather spend it on whatever else before.

summary

• it feels bad to be forced to pick certain talents which you wish to avoid… either the “lines” should be scrapped completely (they force you into certain talents) or there should be way more of them, so you can choose different direction - I’d actually say that DKs suffer less from this issue, but I stand with what I say
• boring talents X % damage increase should be removed, on the other hand, something like Taste for Blood X% damage increase for each dot to your Ferocious Bite… isn’t boring
• Soothe, Hibernate, Remove Corruption (Remove Curse) should all be baseline, it’s extremely bad to pick those situational abilities and lose your main abilities or power over it… this indirectly leads to prunning… am I supposed to pick 4 abilities I will never ever use (Moonkin form? Starsurge) as Feral just because I might want in a match up to throw in some Hibernates? No. That feels bad.

Right now it feels like too much prunning that I’ll be playing worse version of Shadowlands Feral. Because I’ll lose bunch of abilities as they’re too costly.
It’s unreasonable to spend 7 talent points on something you don’t want just to pick Cyclone.

“counter-arguments”

Blizzard’s reasoning for this prunning and putting it into talent trees is that “it’ll cost just one point and you’ll have enough talent points, don’t worry”. Well - NOT REALLY. Picking Cyclone doesn’t cost you 1 talent point, but rather all talents in its direction make it 7. That’s 7 out of 31. That’s more than 1/5 of all talent points just for ability you had previously baseline. That’s the equivallent of having Cyclone on one talent row in current talents. And yes, removing Cyclone and putting it into Current talents as a choice would feel super-bad. This feels like something they didn’t really think about which in my opinion is very clear from the statement, that it’ll just cost one talent point.