I don’t even get you two. Rogues literally got recup back, Kyrian ability as standard for all rogue to use. Shadow Dance… As literally any spec. We’re talking outlaw or Assassination with shadow dance.
Cold blood and gouge for all specs. Sepsis for Assassination, Sepsis for Sub, Flagelallalal (Venthyr ability) for rogue. Like… Rogues will be absolutly mind boggeling with this. From a pvp stand point.
While hunters, got nothing, nada. They just took our spell book and talents, spread them out. Like. We’re talking that a part of talents are “Improved mend pet”?! Wow, I can heal my pet more!!
Like this isn’t a threat and I know no one cares. But I can emphasise how lack of a desire I have to play hunter after this. I mean, UH, Rogues of any kind, Holy priest looks far more powerful. Even druids looks like a shadow compared to these specs.
This is getting to the point of redicilous. I feel it so hard to speak behaved and calm. This is just… Facepalming.
Hi,
rogue talent trees look intresting. I see a lot of potencial.
PS.
If Echoing reprimand + greenskin’s wickers is going to be baseline please fix their bugged interaction first. (Greenskin’s doesn’t calculate correctly if it hits anima charged combopoint).
How do they look interesting? What do you define as potential?? What am I missing here? Am I the only one that see this as a problem? The strength of this class will go absolut bonkers. I bet you. Put this live now and you’ll hear crys for miles. How is that so hard to foresee?
Don’t you dare give me that bullcrap. With all due respect. Sir.
It’s same sad old song every single expansion and the same happens every single expansion. The omens people see and tell goes live and hay hits the fan.
If you do not address the fire in the barn, the barn with burn. That’s simple logic.
I’m not saying that we should just wait and hope that they make them great themselves.
Those trees are a mess.
There is a lot to fix/change/remove or put in different place, but there is also a lot of potencial for fun builds if changes are implemented correctly.
Can hunters get some more defensives please? Survival of the Fittest (assuming it will still be around as a Lone Wolf ability at all) is garbage at 3 min cooldown while other classes have better defensives at 1 min cooldown. Was hoping there would at least be some talents to improve your defensive capabilities.
It got so bad I stopped raiding on Hunter during Sanctum of Domination, being killed by unavoidable damage isn’t fun at all. And now we won’t even have conduits to help out. RIP Hunters.
(Also get rid of the Exotic classification and let us use whatever pet we want regardless of spec.)
What I say now, is not meant as demeaning. But to validate my position.
I’ve played this game since classic. I have countless of FoS that can provide my background knowledge. I am telling you, THIS needs to change.
Hunters needs more of a “wow” factor. Not talents that heals our pets for more or give blanket movement speed or blanket crit. We even have talents that literally does the same. One that reduces CD on kill command with cobra shot and one that reduces CD on kill command with barbed shot. Why? And why do we still have Arcane shot as baseline?? No one besides Marksman uses Arcane shot?? Why is it baseline for all hunters?? Makes no sense and it’s 100% clutter and confusing to have.
Secondly. Rogues needs to be toned down from those trees. There is a reason Sub doesn’t have gouge. Now they get it? Plus not one or two, but THREE covenant abilties into one spec? And shadow dance for all specs? Like… ALL specs?? Not just sub. But every singel spec there is for rogue can now have shadow dance. What??
If they do that, define to me the point of Beast Mastery.
The problem isn’t exotic pets. The problem is the lack of definition to the pets. They’re in a messy state and pets them self should be looked at. You can’t just toy around with the hunters and not look at the pets.
Also, I agree on the defensive side. Turtle is by far the most boring and useless defensive in the game. You can still die from dots on you or damage under ground. But you can’t do anything in it. Every time you use turtle, all you do, is pray. That feels bad.
And do not get me started on exileration or how it’s spelled. Horrible defensive mechanic, far too long a CD for 30% heal.
I felt the same way when they completely gutted ret paladin and balance druid with release of BFA
you get used to it after a while
it’s been 4 years already and the pain is going away slowly but surely
time will heal wounds
I just want my purple manasaber. Nightborne without it feels wrong. Guess they can just add versions of it that are classified as Cats. Though I suspect there are more pets others would want to use for the aesthetics.
Turtle isn’t useless but it’s not enough, mainly the issue is that it’s not a even personal defensive, it’s assigned for mechanics. But even if you can use it the 0 DPS downside and long cooldown make it not great for a 30% damage reduction against DOTs.
I feel like reducing Survival of the Fittest to 90 sec cooldown would go a long way.
How so? Empowered rune weapon from frost tree. Unholy frenzy from Unholy, Double chains of ice, Slappy hands. Unholy will vaporise people in pvp… Again.