No matter what these days it’s literally hard to get an M+ group filled with any people. lower or myth track key - you can just sit in LFM waiting forever. And it’s not “just my groups” - I can join such a group and watch empy applicant list.
And spare me your “boo hoo it’s season 4 nobody cares” - ye ok - so you can abuse the situation and try keys you wouldn’t get into otherwise.
It’s bad when not even low gear andies apply to groups at this point.
Or to reiterate - it was never easier to get into M+ than right now
that’s the problem - if I recall your ideas about gearing it’s probably sub 500 so no surprise.
I’m sitting 30 min with 9+ neltharus on 520 ilvl lock with 0 applicants. neltharus being like one of a few “dungeons of interest”.
if you do 2+ then maybe. so far I seem like I can get into groups on alts with ease even if my rio on them is crap because there is no rivalry.
Then when I make my own group I end up inviting on first come first serve because there is like 5 ppl applying in 20 mins
Yes of course it is below 500 ilvl. You do not get 500 ilvl without doing content that rewards that ilvl. We are talking about +2’s here. Even those do not reward 500 ilvl. You need to farm crests for that or higher keys.
that’s the issue , afaik you have your idea of gearing upside down. You don’t gear thru M+. You gear thru lower level raiding. I did and tested it on multiple characters.
So you’re basically wasting time. You can reach over 500 just by doing lfr, normal raiding, TW, and stuff like that.
because I rememebr you were saying you can’t get gear in any way and you try lower key with cringe ilvl. that’s a recipe for bad time but all power to you if you wanna waddle thru pain.
Check Mistjo Argent Dawn. It is like 526 ilvl. Should give you an idea.
Week 1 i already finished a +10. I never complained about getting gear.
You have raided for your gear. So not sure what argument it is. I literally just started my DK so obviously i havent farmed the raids for the whole season.
Ok? But at least i play the content i enjoy?
Completely off topic? I just mentioned i played my own key and had in less than a minute a full group. And yes, i invited also 2 players without a score at all.
yes but I doubt anyone carrying your sub 500 dk is enjoying the content. I wouldn’t go any M+ on such pepe geared char. But I have a strong moral compass.
Going low gear to normal raid is fine because it’s giga easy and there is 25 people so it doesn’t matter.
Meanwhile you are the one greeding 100 gold on enchants as per some old topic discussion we had.
We are not the same.
M+ is toxic and to be avoided at all cost.
When Delves come my guess is the number of players doing M+ will go down quite a bit. Unless they pull a Totghast on Delves and make them worthless.
Blame the key depletion / timer mechanics forced group content with raid io simps.
Made a warlock a week ago, got it to lv 70 and 485ilv is about 3 days, figured I’d run my own keys on it and see how it goes as i usually run with friends. I had an azure vaults and took about 20 minutes to find tank and healer. healer to be doing 20k HPS on first boss, die twice and use everyones CR and then leave (obviously was from Kazzak).
Second time running it we had a tank who pulled everything in the first room, went fine and then everything in the corridor and died, we recovered went to boss, he died, i got CR off but not before a dps got clipped during cast time so not enough people for trees so we rotted out, 2 dps left group right away so healer left as well and what did this DH do? Solo tanked the boss for close to 7 minutes so everyone would be stuck in combat and wouldnt be able to release and leave instance…the guy who died 30 seconds into the boss fight could solo tank for 7 minutes.
Third time i got a group together we had a experienced guardian tank, we cleared everything, smooth boss, did skip, ret paladin missed the platform, died and then just released and left group (i was in the middle of putting up a summoning stone) we managed to 4 man the rest of the dungeon with plenty of time to spare. (Ret was also from Kazzak)
And thats the story of the first and last time i tried completely pugging M+. Oh and before the usual crowd of (you just wanted a boost) i invited people who have low score and had around the same ilv as me.
Very possible. That was about a weapon enchant that did not even do anything. You just wanted to enchant for enchanting. We are for sure different.
Also about the raids, since i am not interested in raiding at all. I find raiding very unfun.
Anyway; i runned my own key. Plenty of people to choose from.
It’s unironically the reason I started playing Healer/Tank a few years back. And outside the fact that I actually really enjoy playing tank/healer, I would never swap back to DPS for the single reason that I wouldn’t want to have trouble finding groups again.
