Fellowship got it all right / M+ did everything wrong ... Time to learn blizz

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didnt try it when it first came out 2 weeks go , but now after playing it for just 2 days , ican safely say the devs know exactly what they are doing and what they want and how to please they’re target audience … they got it all right (almost all few errors ) im speechless to be honest

systems that wow should have had 6 years ago and still dosnt while this game had them all on release …. what an embarrasment :

Auto Queue - no brainer , everygame should have an automated system for matchmaking

Utilities like CR/BL/Shroud etc … tied to trinkets or specific items instead of tying it to some Class due to class fantasy making sense

The kick marker system is mind blowing , its so good i couldnt even believe it , even with Weakauras and all the addons we couldnt make something like that in wow , super clean …. you always know whos kicking what and wether they have kick available or no , it can even put on a order for who to kick it if its more than one . cutting edge design

Fast dungeons in combination with long ones : this one is so good you have a bunch of small fast 1 boss dungeons and then you have a mega dungeon at the end of each rank , the fast dungeons are usually 10 minute and the timer is 11-12 , and the mega dungeon is around 30-35 with 3 bosses , this way you are not locked into a 30 minute prison each time you wanna play the game …. perfect

Insane Class balancing , the class balancing in this game is so good you cant even believe it , outside of doing the highest of highest keys ever it dosnt matter what you play all classes do pretty good dmg , and have equal utility , healers are also similar in terms of powerlevel however the playstyle and healing profile differes , tanks are the only negative with 1 being super good the other not being as good

Constant update , literally as im writing this they just released another patch that has adressed so many things like ui issues and more class balancing (thats 2 patches in 2 weeks) which means they are not sleeping and going to sushi , they are working on the game …

Chicken trinkets , Specific affixes that are not annoying like wow but rewarding if you do them right , no buffs no bring this bring that fiesta , the list goes on guys …. i couldnt fit it all here you get the point

This is an oppertunity for blizzard to learn how you make a game that pleases its audience , you could have done all these things infact we even suggested many of them over the years and you didnt , and now another company did and stole a good chunk of your playerbase :slight_smile: this is the cost of EGO . put it aside make proper changes to Midnight

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I haven’t played it, but I have taken an interest in it, and seen a few streams and videos. If Blizzard managed to make this UI I think they might finally have a case for no addons.

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Dunno, what i heard, on higher lvls they face the same problems as wow. Not enough healers and tanks.

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Those are hardly issues they can easily solve with design though. If no-one wants to tank then no-one wants to tank.

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Nah, its more like everyone want to zug-zug and boast the e-pp numbers.

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Fellowship is also a good example of a game that doesn’t need 30 keybinds to still have complexity.

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Literally impossible for WoW to replicate because WoW has MANY more classes and race combos.

Fellowship has premade characters. And only 9 of them.
Easy to balance, yes. But boring as hell.

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oh yeah this one i forgot to mention , i played meiko only so far , i can safely say with just like 6-7 buttons she is far more complicated to play than any wow tank period ( maybe with brew being the exception )

my only complain about this game is that in the tanking department its incredibly similar to wow … Tanks are hard HARD AF , you die fast you need to control alot of the stuff you need to route , live do dmg , self sustain , and all of that is equally hard and complicated as wow is :smiley: but other than that its fine

Nonesense , its very possible its much more possible than you think , get rid of class fantasy BS let classic andy’s rot in classic and make the game better for retail gamers i mean hell they even have they’re own server these days who cares about them

get rid of buffs , give tanks BL , give tanks and healers CR / create certain item enchantments like rings and give them usable abilities in dungeons like Shroud etc … very doable more than doable

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On that i agree with you.

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No thank you.
That would ruin the game.

I don’t want WoW to be turned into a dumb matchmaking game.
If you want that, go play this new Fellowship travesty.

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then go play classic …. we are not interested in regressing back to 2005 we are interested in what future hold for retail

i am already playing that . and probably will till midnight release

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Blizzard probably can’t copy wholesale everything Fellowship does, but in order to boost the m+ scene I would like to see them learn lessons from it. A dungeon focussed playmode can be done well.

People who don’t like m+ will not like fellowship, but then they don’t have to take part in m+ either, so that’s fine.

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I hate Classic.
I like modern WoW the way it is.
And it is decidely NOT a matchmaking game. You’re talking about making ALL of modern WoW geared towards doing stupid dungeon runs. Hell no. No no no.

Enjoy yourself.

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M+ is probably the games most popular game mode, so It’s not “stupid dungeon runs”, also anything Blizzard learns from fellowship will likely not affect you in the slightest, as you aren’t doing m+.

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Ebalorate “we” please.

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yeah this guy is a meme you can tell by the way he ccomments :smiley:

qoutes - i hate classic - Porccedds to make classic andy takes .

elaborate which part of my comment you are qouting , i dont know what you mean by we , but i would describe We as anyone who plays the game regularly ( atleast for that specific content , it being pvp/m+/raid )

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Cool, then i dont want to make WoW like fellowship.

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no body said make wow like fellowship , thats such a dumb way of looking at it … it wont even be possible they are 2 completely different games

fellowship has many good features that wow can learn from to better they’re games , its like if tomorrow apple makes a new iphone and it has some new cool features and Samsung decides to look at it and be like eh we dont wanna do what they do and provide good quality services for our customers … its crazy honestly some of you guys and the way you look at things its like do you even what the world looks like ? how it runs ?

it really does feel like some of you are completely disconnected from reality which makes sense considering the society that we live in , everyone lives in they’re own head

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You like fellowship? Well good for you then.

People are allowed to like stuff as much as dislike it as well. So stop with this “you are only allowed to like what I like and if you don’t then you are disconnected from reality”.

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what do they like ? they are not making any arguement at all they are just spewing RANDOM BS …. they are not specifiying on what they like and what they dont like and how certain changes that im implying would affect them . your comment here is another perfect example of RANDOM BS …

what are you implying exactly ? because base on your remakrs it seems like you are not argueing about anything you are just randomly making some stuff up that ppl like this but you like that , which makes 0 sense

i am suggesting certain facts that are present within this very momment and im suggesting how blizzard could take advantage of these and make they’re own game better … and then you have that Clown Tah guy whos like no thanks i like this i like that , without really explaining in details what he likes :smiley: and how these changes would affect him . its a fiesta like you cant make arguement with anyone these days everyone has some MOM told me im special syndrome

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