On PTR for affli is Demon armor 220% and for Destro 160% not a lot still better than nothing.
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i dont get why they buff it every week, just give us soul link.
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Then demo should get demon armor as baseline then.
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Isnt this just like 2-3% dmg reduction against physical only, I mean a buff is a buff in the end. But maybe they will realise at some point that the armor value isnt what makes WL viable or did make them op in the past, but I guess for 9.0.5 they will stick with just do something, even if they dont know if it will help.
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its an additional 4,55% reduction compare to the LIve version. 
this is why im said Soul Link instead buffing this crap
depends on your starter armor value. 226 ppls will have more i think.
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You know that if affli or destro will get soul link you guys will have all issues with pets that demo has right now.
You think your pet dies too quickly right nowâŚpfff, for demo demons die even quicker because of soul link. trust me, it is a half-measure.
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Now donât forget that warriors with condemn, Sub rogues, ret paladins, ench shams do damage with magic⌠so is this a buff really?)
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yeah ik man, but an overall 20% def and a bit of soul leech healing still sound better than a poor Physical only def aka Demon Armor.
a buff is a buff, butâŚ
physical damage is a portion of the damage in the game. Most melee have magic damage.
For me the solution is to give demon armor to all spec and reduce 10% all damage, soul link for all spec and reduce 10% damage + %health regeneration. If use grimoire of sacrifice, soul link give +10/15% health.
It makes no sense that every week they increase the armor valur of the demon armor âŚ
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With the announcement of the honor talent revamp for 9.1 I lost hope for any real changes this patch besides buffing/nerfing some things by a few %. They will not invest much time into trying new skills or changing the way spells work until 9.1
Can only hope they really change the pvp talents around, maybe even make some baseline or at least baseline while in pvp to have options outside of the best options.
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I hope we get Blood Fear, Blood Horror and Dark Bargain back.
We will never get blood fear back, blood horror maybe but mop blood fear was the quickest nerf and remove ever done by blizzard for a reason- it was insanely powerful
Dark bargain However- god yes that was so clutch in a burst meta
Blood Fear was power full? We lost hp based on max health, it was fair.
No it wasnât, the instant horror was fair, the blood fear ability bounced so many locks early mop around 300-400 rating higher than they ever had achieved before.
It made destro into a literal God in pvp, instant fear, instant x2 coil , instant shadow fury. Blizzard thought it would be balanced too like you said but then warlock both had tools to heal and healers could funnel into them so they could play more aggressive
It WAS busted as hell , I played that season there was little to no counter play because you couldnât even hug a pillar to avoid the cast. Sometimes a cost sounds more fair than it is, paying 20% hp to break any cc or debuff was also powerful however it was not as op as you at least couldnât force a no counter play on someone with it
The cd was 5 seconds and 10% health cost. Increase the cd to 15 seconds.
Dude just noâŚlook man, instant cast fear with 30 yard range is just bad design, we have howl now and Iâm glad for it (although Iâd love if it had the reduced cool down from taking melee hits like it had before)
I love warlocks but I just know that would not be great. I want you to imagine it vs classes that dont have answers to fear, then add in warlock slow, coil, UA. We are making a caster who can control a fight by popping out off pillars instant start a cc off for team and keep avoiding fight without needing to cast at all to set up anything but UA. Letâs instead have actual class working xD
But you think casting sheep and using blink is fair?
Right, if you just have a problem with destruction cc because of Havoc. Then if a destruction is using this talent he canât duplicate MC with Havoc.
But they CAST sheep, just because he shimmers. And for the record mage trades being able to escape stuns for shimmer with blink. Not saying there ainât problems with mage but that isnât one itâs kinda predictable. We are not mages though and we should not be trying to gain perks just because âanother class canâ
Dude⌠it doesnât matter, any d lock would trade MC havoc for a less predictable instant fear and coil. That gives you one of the strongest all ins possible . Can you imagine how much easier it is to cc lock someone into damage with
Infernal/shadow fury/bolt/coil/bolt while having an instant fear you can freely throw at a trinket or cross cc a heal with ? I hate to say it but fear does deserve counter play .
As a note, blood fear in mop was deemed so op that it was actually the fastest removed skill ever on wow that went live , if that doesnât tell you its bad then I dont know what does, no other ability was removed within the same season it began in ever in wowâs history
We actually had it over a year, so it wasnât that fast. Fast would be under 6 months.
Blood Fear wasnât that strong as demo or Affliction, thatâs why we can just weaken it for destruction.
I know what you mean with donât compare with other classes, but for me warlock was and will ever be the âsacrificing health for cc or dmg and her that life backâ class.