Gilded Crests - Hero > Myth track upgrade

So increase gearing speed by 50%?

Idk gearing already feels extremely fast.

I think you missed the part that delves had the exact opposite problem. The way higher rewards compared to difficulty they offered drove many players away, since the only upgrades were from content that they were in no way prepared for.

From what blizzard said, it would not surprise me if we see the delves rewards being reduced, and maybe added above tier 8.

But yeah, from what blizzard said, I would not put my money in increasing the rewards that delves gives. Most probably they would be reduced in order to be brought back into line with other game content.

I think the increased rewards will be coming from visions in 11.2. Still soloable content, just not held to the player’s expectations of what delves are.

Well wow has become a seasonal game , is not anymore classic-tbc-wotlk even cata where people were doing older tier in the current expansion .

If you are a mythic raider at least 4/8 is fast since majority of 4/8 already are at 634+ ilvl
If you are a mythic+ you are in the range of 626-630.
Delve players-solo content player capped at 619 ilvl without further improvement .

The game doesn’t offer anything else especially since Season 2 resets the gear = veteran gear cap at 643 ilvl and is obtainable even with world content or hc-dungeons .

Basically 1st week of Season 2 everyone will remove their 639 ilvl gear either from Hc-dungeon or from the M0 that is available and offer champion quality gear .

So in a Seasonal game would be stupid to have this gated content since every new season gear resets.

I dont mind having a time gate.

what i dont enjoy is being limited to only have a weekly reward to get any upgrade at all, and its RNG on if its even useful at all.

its not a reward if you just take it for the sake of it

I would be fine if the T9+ gave better rewards.
Because then you actually have something to work through, and get rewards to make it easier in the long run.

Right now, as a Tank with 616 ilvl, T10 is just a hard wall for me.

The problem that they stated was that delves already gave too good of rewards. They were pretty easy and you could get 603-610 ilvl from them. Then players “felt” that the next step in the path is dungeons at +7, which was in no way comparable to difficulty (and people had a very bad experience).

I think that the way they will make it “last” more, is for it to give lower gear up to +8, and then increase it so that current +8 rewards drop from +11.

I think this has a decent chance of happening.

Contrary to delves, horrific visions offered challenge that was quite similar to m+, so they might try to offer higher rewards from them.

Although the forums will go ballistic the first few weeks from people that cannot complete them at all.

What about the Mythic raiding nerfs ?? last 4 bosses had 10-15% health nerf and many of those abilities nerfed to the ground.
The raid itself every week is nerfed due the better gear .
What about the current buffs that are going to reach 20% dmg/heal ?? A is ok .

Honestly, as soon as you reached the point, where you can trade 90 for the upgraded version, the Seasonal Maximum for that type should be removed. Or they need to change the maximum so it actually matches up, that you can get enough of the basic ones, to upgrade to the sesonal maximum of the next tier, etc.

Also, it would be great to see some way other that Heroic Raids and Mythic+ that actually rewarded higher Crests. Like maybe add them as rewards for Tier 9 and above Delves, so there was a point to running anything higher than Tier 8

Yeah, they are nerfing the raid from a 90 to a 60 across the season. There is nothing on the game coming close to that difficulty apart from m+ at the very high end.
On the other hand we are discussing the difficulty of +8 delves which is a 4.

And they give 603 ilvl gear =champion gear . that’s 36 ilvl lower than best gear and we know how gear scale by ilvl .

Or are you talking about the hero gear that you obtain once per week and you can upgrade to 619 ilvl= same with the champion gear.

Yeah, but it is also the same gear that drops from +7 dungeons. So when those people finish farming delves for 2 weeks, they “naturally” see that the path leads them to m+ 7 dungeons, and then they get a rude awakening.

The problem is not that “gear is prestigious and they should not have it”, the problem is “the reward the delves offer lead the players into a path in the game which they are not equipped to handle, thus offering a negative experience”.

I don’t see that as feasible.
As a Tank, T10 is simply impossible for me at the moment.
I can’t get better gear from Delves, and I am not going into M+ to get better gear.
So unless that system changes, T10 and T11 are not doable for me, until I wait a season or two and just cheese it later.

Yeah I do not think they will either.

If I had to guess, I would put my money into them nerfing the rewards from delves abit next tier, and having horrific vision be a step up in difficulty to give better rewards.