Gilneas. So... that was stupid

Seriously do something about your spelling.

The return of Gilneas to the Gilnean people could be a costly mistake for the Horde.
The first war with the Gilneans vs Forsaken. The Forsaken were losing at every turn only to then resort to plague against the Warchief’s orders then need the Horde to join in the fight.

Now with their own nation again. Infrastructure - Economy and more. They could come back stronger than before. With the Alliance of Lordaeron they were the strongest human kingdom at the time.

Tess Greymane’s “comradmanship” with Lilian Voss and the like such be treated with caution. Perhaps she won’t do something stupid such as allow the Forsaken to make new Undead.
Some of the Gilneans now that live with the curse of the Worgen only done so they will not be forced into Undeath.

You alliance people are disgusting.

Have you seen how the Horde is?
Gilnean dead forced into Undeath then enslaved by the Forsaken to wage war against their living kin.
Kul Tirans fear undeath as the Horde found the long dead Derek Proudmoore to force him into Undeath then bend and break him just as what was done to Dranosh Saurfang.
The Alliance must find ways to make sure that Alliance dead stays dead. Paladin was able to do so in Legion with Light consecration on graves.

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Erevien, please calm down.

Not until the alliance is finally defeated for good.

The Horde already tried their best to defeat the Alliance when they started the 4th war.
The Horde lost.

Lordaeron could have been returned to the living Lordaereons as the Horde army was being defeated by the Alliance. Until the Horde used the plague and forced both Alliance and Horde dead into Undeath through the Necromancy of their Warchief.
Jaina Proudmoore’s performance with her fathers ship showed the Alliance that capable mages and mage-craft are indeed beneficial to Alliance efforts.
Former Warchief Garrosh Hellscream once said in Silverpine Forest “Have you any idea what this means Sylvannas?” “What difference is there between you and the Lich King now?”
Her answer was “I serve the Horde” but in truth she serves the jailor.

How Gilneas was returned to the Gilneans left a lot wanting. But now a new nation rebuilt - reforged. Much is expected of the Gilneans and little doubt they would meet or surpass expectations.

Garrosh was a doodoo head who couldn’t make any landfall in Ashenvale for 3 years. Sylvanas took all of Lordaeron in a week. I am sure we all know who the better Commander here was. Humanity must fall only then Azeroth can be saved. And we start with Stormwind.

The Gilneans alone were defeating the Forsaken. The Horde took a big loss with the defection of Garrosh Hellscream. There would never be an Orc like him again.
Gilneans should become much stronger.
Gilneans have their own navy that they will rebuild in time. That is why some of them went on to create Kul Tiras in the first place.

The Alliance can foritify many of the Alliance kingdoms along the Eastern Kingdoms.
Stormwind - Dark Irons - Ironforge - Kul Tiras - Gilneas - Stromgarde. Close enough to each other that supply routes and cooperation should not be too difficult. Should the Amani Trolls rise up again this time there would not be humans to help with the Troll problem that afflicts Quel’Thelas. The Wildhammers are scrappy but not too far away that help can not reach them.

Stormwind was holding just okay against the Horde until Garrona Halforcen interfered from within. The current strength of the humans will surprise the Horde. With the restoration of Stromgarde human kingdoms will become stronger than ever.

Even after being genocided the blood elves defeated the Amani with ease. And If they rise again with new and open minded leaders due to Zandalari diplomacy then we can become allies this time in order to withstand a common enemy. Humans and high elves.

Without plot armor and writers favoritism you have nothing.

There was no Blood Elves back then. There was some shred of honour and potential. Without human assistance the Amani would have conquered Quel’Thelas.
Humans have no reason to save Quel’Thelas. Not without High Elves reclamation.
A Troll uprising can have it’s uses. The Zandalari are no longer the leaders that they used to be among Troll kind. Especially with their membership into the Horde.

Not plot armor. Just defeating the Horde. Martial prowess - Magecraft - Skills and more.

Nope writers biases is all you have on your side. The day human potential stops marketable they will finally drop you and when Stormwind is finally burned down I will laugh the last laugh.

Bias writing? The Forsaken are the most powerful Horde faction right now. Sylvannas was able to 1 v 1 the Lich King. Even without the helm of domination Bolvar Fordragon was an accomplished warrior.

Should the Horde return to Orcish leadership then they might once again be a threat. But the writing team does not know what they want to do with the World of Warcraft right now.

Anyway. When Gilnean’s recover as a nation there should be a much larger presence in the Eastern Kingdoms. Peace never lasts anyway. You dream of the fall of Stormwind but that will not happen again. Not because of the Horde.

Catering to the human nations while neglecting the Horde all the time led to a toxic culture of alliance players being spoiled and entitled about the story and plebs like you who always dunk on us about their superiority. Blizzard need to check those priviliges and create a story where the Horde is equal in power.

Not anymore. Forsaken powerhouse has been destroyed, they lost Sylvanas and their control over western Lordaeron minus Tirisfal.

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I suggest planting a second world tree after Amirdrassil. Right in western Lordaeron.

Then maybe a third. And a fourth. It seems that continent is in need of proper protectors.

We need to destroy all of Gilneas and take back Silverpine by force.

More alliance bias. We know that.

You are not paying attention. The Forsaken are the biggest winners of the Battle for Azeroth. There are probably very few if any Lordaereon Forsaken left. Their ranks are swelling with Alliance undead. Night Elves - Kul Tirans - Stormwind - Gilnean humans.
The Undead Horde at the battle for Undercity were left roaming in the plague.

With what the Forsaken done to the Kul Tirans the Alliance must now take measures into making sure that Alliance dead remains dead. Horde have no problem with grave robbing. Without the complicit Horde the Forsaken will never have been able to turn Derek Proudmoore into their slave.

The Alliance would not allow that to happen. It will not take Gilneans long to recover and surpass their former strength.

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