Hunter pvp buff

[Stingandbite-ragnaros]

As a MM hunter since tbc and wotlk, I can say the only real problem with our burst is that double tap is on GCD.
Using it mid combo feels awful.

Imagine double tap beeing off GCD. Even with aimed shot nerfs you could:

1. Aimed shot into explosive shot.
2. Double tap into rapid fire,
3. Use proc of arcane shot boosted by aimed shot earlier or kill shot If in range.
   Now I will not speak about covenants, since if double tap was off GCD, you could use necro chakram ability for highest single target burst. Out of Stealth or if you had target locked for aimed shot this would not require Kyrian covenant so much either to not be LOS’d

[Ridtur-outland (Ridtur)]

@Burninghunt-ravencrest

The whole general issue is that hunter needs 4-6 GCD’s to setup burst, burst thats denied by 1 cc from the enemy. Scatter should be used as cross CC, not to land traps. Concussive @focus and trap off of that slow is enough, you can also bait out their freezer deniers with tar that way before the go. But the amount of time we have to use to setup a go is the worst of all classes atm. Remove the GCD from resonating and d-tab. Lower the cd of turtle to 2mins, remove the dmg reduction from turtle and make it possible for us to take action during our only defensive. The damage reduction is totally pointless since we always tend to use Turtle preemptively anyway.

Also our CC is still in gutters and in pruned state. Explosive trap should be baseline, scatter for MM as baseline, we absolutely lack offensive pvp talents, RoS should be baseline etc. We have really bad utility and the utility is even worse since it usually relies on the pet that dies to random cleave from enemy. Pet should have passive ability like they used to have for less aoe dmg taken and active ability, like Cower they used to have for situational dmg reduction.

And on a side note, if the pet dies on MM, the hunter should get lonewolf instantly at that point. Doesnt make sense that arena doesnt allow dismissal of pets, and we can barely ress pet either. Spend 2mins kiting a melee last night so that I could ress my pet btw. Sounds fun right?

Agree with pretty much everything here except Scatter Shot not being used to trap.

TLDR (+ my extra suggestions):

• Scatter should only DR with itself
• Explosive Trap, Scatter Shot, Roar of Sacrifice baseline
• Pet passive survivability increased
• Lone Wolf on pet kill in arena
• GCD on Double Tap, Hunter’s Mark and Resonating Arrow removed
• Remove damage restriction on Turtle
• Give Turtle 2x charges (like old Deterrence), or reduce the CD
• Remove the various Sting PvP talents and replace it with Silencing Shot
• Make a PvP talent that causes Aimed Shot to passively be cast-while-moving, shorter cast time and do lower damage.
• Return Wyvern Sting as a PvP talent

[Mahara-tarren-mill]

Still waiting on PvP buffs…

[Thunderarrow-outland]

& by pre-legion state id assume u mean MoP ranged survival

[Yuxu-the-shatar]

how powerfull will MM become in pvp when they allowing us have 2 BIS legos and 9 pecese of tier set equipted at same time and we are the only spec/class in game what can do so ?

[Squishynutt-kazzak]

What are you on about??! every class will have all set bonuses with their bis legendary…