I feel mop is dead game

Thanks for the joke, I really needed a laugh.

You don’t get to say what the main game is.

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Ok?

You can also say minecraft is a pvp game or League of Legends is a PvE game if you only play vs bots, doesnt mean that its true. But whatever your delusional mind is happy with I guess. You dont even get balancing for your mode.

Of course for you WoW could be a PvP game, and the sky could also be pink in your eyes, it doesnt really matter though.

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For the entirety of the game’s lifespan the focus of WoW was questing, dungeons and raids. There are other activities that exist for the sake of immersion, like professions and roleplay, or for the sake of diversity, like mount farming, pet battles, battlegrounds, transmog collecting, goldfarming etc.

PvP is a minor activity and never was meant to be a self-sufficient thing capable of entertaining you indefinitely. I am baffled that I still have to explain this

You cannot just say “A happened after B, therefore B caused A”. WoW is as popular today as it was in 2004-2012 if you normalise it against the popularity of other MMOs. The entire genre of MMO RPGs was overhyped and booming in mid 2000s - early 2010s due to various sociocultural factors. The decline of subscription count post-2011 is merely the hyperinflated numbers coming back to normal plus new genres emerging and draining older genres’ numbers.

Very good point,
Tell me if I’m wrong, but I guess there are PvP servers in Minecraft? Now imagine complaining about PvP on a PvP server, that’s exactly what you’re doing. Thanks for proving my point again.

I never did that

I also think you guys should have your PvP server, just not that Gehennas or Firemaw are salvageable. Just a new server where people can transfer to if they want to PvP.

Whatever is praticed by the general population the most, is the main game.

Which does not make Minecraft a PvP game. PvP is Minecraft is a secondary activity just like in WoW

I am also baffled a lot of the time when reading comments on the wow forum for example.
Then i remind myself of a few things. One thing being:
“always remember that there always will be the few leftover die hard blizzard fans trying to defend whatever nonesense. Dont try to hard arguing cause it will be a waste of time”

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That’s fascism btw. The game is what each player wants it to be you can’t force everyone to see it only the way you do. If someone decides that for them WoW is just about fishing, they have every right to see it that way and play how they enjoy. And even if it were a minority (which pvp isn’t), that wouldn’t make their way of playing less valid.

So yes, asking for a PvP server isn’t some extreme demand , it’s the bare minimum.

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Maybe it came up because you di not transfer your char from Firemaw to new megaserver? I think everybody swapping to new megaserver they made 2 days ago.

im already in “new mega server” and its more dead like on firemaw

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No, it’s the conventional definition of “main game”

What are you even talking about? I never said anything like that. Do not distort my words. Did you even read the conversation? You can play whatever you want or whatever you like. You could play PvP all day every day, I couldn’t care less. Just do not complain that the game is dead when you manually restrict yourself to 5% of the content.

Are you sure you are in the right thread?

It’s not. Especially in an open game like World of Warcraft, the game is what you want it to be. No one can force you to see it only as PvE or only as PvP. Trying to make us believe that WoW has “always been” one or the other is nonsense, and it only comes from people like you who are all about forcing others to play in ways they don’t enjoy.

Nobody’s distorting your words. You’re the one saying that PvP players “restrict themselves to 5% of the content.” That’s just wrong. For us, PvP is the content it’s not some side activity tacked on to raiding.

And it’s not “complaining the game is dead” when the reality is Blizzard killed PvP realms by letting imbalance spiral. Choosing PvP over PvE isn’t restricting ourselves, it’s choosing how we want to play. That’s what the game was always about. And if you can’t even understand that, then we really can’t argue or have a meaningful discussion.

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U cant. Dont even bother with him. Its a waste of time.
Just opened another topic on this forum. Look who is the first to spread his nonesense again :joy:

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These 2 sentences have 0 contradiction. You are only interested in PvP? OK, good for you. Does PvP amount to a small fraction of all the content WoW has to offer? Still, yes. Just because you do not like it, doesn’t mean it’s not content.

When you are only interested in a small fraction of the game’s content and do not want to do anything else, do not complain that there’s nothing to do and the game is dead

You can like PvP but you can’t pretend 90% of the player base doesn’t touch or care about it bro. PvE has always been the main focus, not an opinion.

JFC can you just stop running your mouth? You have such a weird and hostile attitude towards PVPers. It’s CLEAR you don’t pvp yourself so why even comment on things that don’t concern you? You still THAT mad you got ganked once or twice at level 15 or what? You have no idea how tedious you are.

The issues that PVPers are facing right now are insane, no gear upgrades, no way to farm gold, bad queue times, no PVP servers, nowhere to spend honor. Bad balancing in arena and rbgs, the list goes on. PVPers have been SCREWED since the start of MoP and we have every right to complain about it. You wouldn’t know this because you don’t PvP. Go comment on something that you actually understand and know about, because this topic is not it.

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YUP, Weird that this place is deader than our original server, I want firemaw back :(((

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I can help you out, press I and click player vs player I can see at least 50 in there right now. You’re welcome.

It seems that you need a friend/friends in-game to play with. try to find a pvp guild and start socialize

What if it was because they lacked PvP content? So to unload world from constant raid on raid pointless fights they created instanced PvP and set ridiculous amount of butt sitting hours to lock all the hot heads away with each other for 10000 years.