Yeah exactly. I take stuff like that with a pinch of salt to be honest. I just don’t want it to muddy the point we all try and get across.
We all love the game dearly and just want it to flourish in the right way.
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Like you say people WANT to PVP but on balanced server or close to it not servers where people are out numbered 3 to 1 .Every FP you go to is being farmed you cant do anything about it .
If you watch the old Zalgradis pvp video from vanilla he talks about being ganked off the fp in wpl by rogues. So he made his prot pala spec to fight this. However that was it back then. Just a few rogues or hunters trapping you.
Funny he never mentioned raids of horde controlling the fp lol. How times have changed.
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I understand every feeling you are going through because feel exactly the same and funny enough we both play locks known for being able to handle a few in a fair fight.
What we have now is nothing like WPVP of Vanilla not one jot .
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To be fair, this even happens on Dragonfang, where I am. It’s damn annoying. But since it’s low-pop, only the flight paths are camped. They can’t cover all areas. So you’re still able to level decently.
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Almost at breaking point myself as is my guild of 5 people (was 30 people before P2)…
Waiting for BG but still have a sour taste in my mouth. Talk about killing the golden goose Blizzard!
Here was me thinking you had a link to official data, you know accurate stuff.
Instead on those three sites data is pulled from:
- Site 1 - logs how many of each faction raids.
- Sire 2 - depending on your search frame can swing by a massive amount from one faction to another.
- Site 3 - clearly states the amount of active characters will shrink day by day because the census add ons no longer work correctly.
None of the above are an authority, combined or otherwise, for the faction balance of a server.
In your post, which I clearly never read, you mentioned Firemaw. Two out of the three sites clearly show Firemaw is Alliance dominated
Site 1 - 43.6/56.4 A/H (raiders over the past 2 weeks)
Site 2 - 54/46% A/H (level 60 last 7 days)
Site 3 - 80/20% A/H (5347 / 1313 A/H active level 60 characters)
Cancelled my subscription as well. Actiblizzard is spitting in our faces with (absence of) handling of this situation.
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The census + addon has recently been reworked and updated to give a fair reflection on current numbers .
ironforge.pro/servers
Firemaw
8854 players total
43.8 alliance
56.2 horde
Updated today
From Ironforge.pro on their front page
Important note: this project relies on Warcraft Logs API
This means, only players/guilds seen in logs are available
Their data comes from raid logs so they’re tracking how many of each faction raids. Feel free to twist it to fit your narrative though.
And feel free to ignore my post about census+ if you can not face facts that classic pvp servers are horde owned in general then I guess you are just here to flamebait and troll therefore not worth mine or anyones else time in replying too.
I’m not ignoring facts I pulled my data, right before I posted it, from:
wowclassicpopulation.com
wowpop.appspot.com (wow classic realm population)
https://wowpop.appspot.com/realms/firemaw/50
Ironforge.pro
https://ironforge.pro/servers
So because I show your stats to be questionable at the very least I must be here to troll LMAO. That is just priceless.
Like I said before feel free to twist it to fit your narrative.
EDIT: Link I originally posted wouldn’t work when copied switched for a screenshot
They are not questionable at all you are looking at 60’s only and you didn’t read all of my earlier threads when I said about the whole and bigger picture so yes you are nit picking and trolling. If you have issues with my post at least question them on whole not one single 60’s stat .
Keep saying that but you didn’t answer my question over census+ so if anyone is doing that its you .
Lineage 2 - played retail and private servers. On retail I was KoS to all big clans and played as a lone player with a buffer. Never once did I complain, I then joined a constant party where we were 9. 9 vs 40 we’d fight and lose. Never complained. Private servers I always fought against the zergs, never once complained. If your low skilled go play pve servers. I played PvE servers due to lack of time so I know I cant compete on PvP servers. Just stop complaining on forums constantly and quit quietly, get better or move to a PvE server. How hard is it? those are the 3 options.
Should be mostly adults now and all i see are a group of kids crying cause they cant win.
its a fact if you cant win just cause your the smaller numbers you suck. A good single player can easily kill 2-3 scrubs depending on the game. I cant believe how many alliance players are moaning, if you stopped moaning on forums and organised yourself ingame you may win. I wont check back here, bunch of low skilled players moaning. GL HF and try to win, its a GAME just have fun lol.
Unless you have trust level 3 on forums you cant post some links or screenshots .
Sorry about calling you a troll but when you have to deal with players like
This all day you will understand why iam a little touchy .
Its a fact, not my fault you’d be the 2-3 and id be the 1.
So im confused are you horde or alliance as ive clearly stated my classic char is a lock on alliance on a realm with 70/30 horde dominated pop so you cant have beated me unless you are horde and I really cant see you besting 3 players solo.
You’re right I never read all your posts in this thread because I’m not trawling through 200+ just to see exactly what you wrote. I commented on the one you made which struck my attention and I thought worthy of a reply.
Not looking at just 60s on the server YOU mentioned the faction balance is now 60/40% A/H
I have made several posts in several threads regarding the validity of stats people are throwing about. People see numbers and assume they are true, or as close as damn it to being true, and they just aren’t currently.
I have never once disputed people are having a rough time at the moment on PvP servers. I have maintained it isn’t a faction balance issue per se but a server population issue. A Vanilla-like server population means everywhere just cannot be physically camped and people can still go about their business much more than they can now.
I don’t want to see anyone leave the game and I genuinely don’t think anyone else does, not really. I would prefer people to continue with Classic be that as a re-roll on another server, levelling an alt or whatever they might want to do at least until BGs are out and then review their situation.
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Yea. Phase 2 is an utter clusterduck and taking fun away from the game. It mostly has nothing to do with pvp. Just a dumb gankfest.
BGs wont change anything. This is how they game is now.
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Ah yes. You the such a understandig guy you are. Someone writes valid point or just expresses frustration and here you come with your infite wisdom. All your “constructive” replies is just toxic garbage. Just try and log on to get ganked all the time. You got ganked 10 times to ZF? Imagine being lvl 50 and getting ganked no matter where you go, no matter what time or place. The game is just a corpse run. Not all of us had time to get to lvl 60 before this and use all our time ganking and griefing. Have no idea how you horde players have time to do this. Probably a bunch of trygdemisbrukere.
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