If you applied these GAME SAVING changes, you'd have a world class game / balance

Please apply these changes and you will see the greatest come back of wow PVP across every single expansion.

Racials

  • All racial abilities have been disabled in PVP.

Healing Debuffs

  • All healing debuffs have been reduced to maximum 10% in PVP. This means abilities such as Sharpen Blade, Storm of Destruction, Hemotoxin will have all the increased healing modifiers removed.

Gear

  • After achieving a season total of 30,000 conquest, all conquest gear will now cost honor for alts until the season ends.
  • All available secondary stats are now available in PVP, this means Crit Verse, Haste Verse and Mastery Verse are all available across every slot.

Class Changes

Devourer Demon Hunter

  • All damage reduced by 10% in PVP
  • Void Blade damage reduced by an additional 10% in PVP
  • Void Surg damage reduced by an additional 20% in PVP
  • Glimpse (PVP Talent) has been removed.

Havoc Demon Hunter

  • Glimpse (PVP Talent) has been removed.
  • Rain from above damage reduced by 50% In PVP
  • All damage reduced by 5% in PVP

Arms Warrior

  • Defensive stance now reduces damage taken by 10% down from 15% in PVP
  • Sharpen Blade (pvp talent) has been removed.

Warriors (all specs)

  • Berserker Rage / Shout no longer grants immunity and will now simply act as a trinket for those spells.

Fury Warrior

  • Slaughterhouse (pvp talent) has been removed.
  • Rampage will now passive apply a 10% healing reduction effect.

Retribution Paladin

  • Divine Shield now reduces all damage dealt by 50% whilst Divine Shield is active.
  • Lay on Hands now heals for 50% less when cast on friendly targets.
  • Unbound Freedom (talent) has been removed.

Mages (all specs)

  • Improved Mass invisibility (pvp talent) no longer reduces the cool-down of Mass Invisibility.
  • Overpowered barriers (pvp talent) has been removed from the game.
  • Master Shepard (pvp talent) has been removed from the game.
  • Polymorph no longer restores heals enemies.
  • Alter Time heal restore reduced by 100% in PVP.
  • Alter Time can no longer be dispelled.

Frost Mage

  • Glacial Bulwark (talent) has been removed.
  • Snowdrift (pvp talent) now replaces Dragon’s breath / Supernova.

Hunter (all specs)

  • Chimaeral Sting (pvp talent) has been removed.

Beast Master Hunter

  • Kindred Beast (pvp talent) has been removed
  • The Beast within (pvp talent) has been removed.

Preservation Evoker

  • Nullifying Shroud (pvp talent) has been removed

Restoration Druid

  • Call of Ohn’Ahra (pvp talent) has been removed.

Death Knight

  • Zombify (pvp talent) no longer stuns target.

Assassination Rogue

  • Garrote no longer silences Players.
  • Hemotoxin (pvp talent) has been redesigned. Shiv now causes your next Garrote to silence the target for 3 seconds, but Shiv is now a 1 minute cool-down.

Subtlety Rogue

  • Shot in the dark (talent) no longer causes Cheap Shot to ignore it’s cool-down.

Shaman (all specs)

  • Grounding Totem (pvp talent) has been redesigned. Grounding Totem now absorbs the next crowd control effect (including non-magic CC). Last 4 seconds. 30 second cool-down.
  • Shamanism (pvp talent) has been removed
  • Totem of Wrath (pvp talent) has been removed.

Warlock (all specs)

  • Demonic Circle: Teleport: No longer grants immunity to snares or roots.
  • Gateway mastery (pvp talent) has been removed.
  • Impish Instincts (pvp talent) can now proc once every 10 seconds up from once every 5 seconds.
  • Mortal Coil now share a diminishing return with stuns.

Destruction Warlock

  • Summon infernal no longer stuns enemy players.

Demonology Warlock

  • Axe Toss is a now an interrupt and no longer stuns targets. Axe Toss has same cool-down, duration and range as Spell-lock.

? ten chars

You forgot to remove shadow word death and fade from priests, or wait, ure just following your subjective views and want ur class to be the best

In what world priests should keep their cc escapes and melee healer become naked w/o shroud, totally eating every cc in the game

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I’m curious how you even managed to get annoyed at this garbage talent, as it has never been played xD

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Lemme fix this for you a wee bit.

Racials
We don’T need to decrease the skill ceiling of the game.

  • All racials have been redesigned into a 4th PvP talent, overriding your character’s.

Healing debuffs
In other words, you’re asking for retwar meta.

Gear
This is actually a really good concept idea.

  • The gear already is available. Just craft it. We get gold from victory boxes now, surely you’re stacked on gold by the time you touch 30k conquest.

Class Changes
That is nice and all, but half are biased and the other half is unsustainable across seasons due to borrowed power etc. This is not a solvable problem without a dedicated dev, thus solving nothing, just shifting the meta.

Why would they put effort in PvP for those 10 people that play pvp…

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84 043 shuffle games in last 72h in usa

89 121 shuffle games in last 72h in eu

173 164 shuffle games played in 72h total, I dont think only 10 people did those numbers.

Blitz has only 3 119 eu and 3 037 usa, 3v3 usa has 9 082 and eu has no reading. Those numbers look small but still I think more than 10 people did them.

lol, a fart in the wind. thats nothing…

13 402 games usa, 7 187 games eu in past 12 hours. 20 589 games total in the last 12 hours would still indicate that there are more than the claimed 10 people making those numbers.

Still a piss in the ocean… Now check how many M+ runs were there :smiley:

Well I dont know what you do when you go swim in the big open seas but everything I gathered from a glance in the activity in shuffles indicates that there are plenty people playing if there were that many shuffles in both eu and usa.

Why? I dont care about PvE and its arena forum. Sorry I dont have interest on M+.

You said only 10 people play PvP, this were shown false thats what I care about :smiley:

Anyway, hope you are enjoying PvP this season and are in PvP forums cos your care for PvP! Uujee have good day.

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Dude, can you even comprehand what “10 players” mean in context?

173 164 shuffle games played in 72h total would mean more than 10 players making these numbers. Your sole purpose were to try come downplay and speak ill of PvP in arena forum dedicated for PvP to people who mostly only care about PvP, so your real purpose of the “context” would technically fall into trolling hence.

Let me ask question from you aswell. Do you understand the reason why PvP players would not care about advocating M+ and attempts of bash PvP in their arena forum? Thats the reason why you get nitpicked on your false number you obviously exaggerated. Because you come annoy them on their turf so they push back, are you starting to get it.

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Dude wants to delete Ret Paladins entirely.

Its not trolling, its just the truth. Wow pvp is the most garbage pvp game that exist. It simply cannot be balanced and never will be. There are million much better pvp games, and there is NO reason to play wow pvp.

Wow pvp sucks because pve balance is the only focus, while pvp balancing is completely random and disconnected from reality. Still, name one other game that does the arena concept better than wow. No one denies that there are much better pvp games, but there’s still enough people that enjoy arena.

Also, you shouldn’t be surprised that pvp players react negatively to your comment, just imagine what would happen if I went to the pve forums and asked why people play this boring scripted slop against AI.

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I am not surprised, i just dont get it why people play pvp in wow.

Ok then why are you in PvP arena forum spamming threads if you dont play PvP and dislike PvP. Complete pointless inflammatory spam, placing you on ignore.

I dont get what else it could be than trolling. Bro doesnt PvP and hates PvP but comes spam threads in PvP forums to bother people with some nonsense that they shouldnt play this game and bla bla. Then surprise pikachu faces when people tell the guy he is in wrong place. How would that even be anyones business if other players play PvP with their game or not. Ridiculous.

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Honestly there’s a lot of good changes here. Good work OP.

rework mind control for priests cos of ugly bug that prevents CCed players sometimes to use skills after MC breaks