Doubt you will fix 10 mistakes in a game against people on your own rating, They dont know how to take advantage of yours since they most likely wont see them just like you. The progress of improving only playing against people on your own rating is extremly slow.
Yes you might even lose in the opener while playing against R1s but at the end you know your opener is bad and you can start progressing from there. What can you do that you dont die in the opener? What did they take advantage of ? It is way more worth it than playing 50 games to find a single mistake against people on your rating
Better fix one and never do again, than being able to make 10 without losing already.
Start being intelligent, it looks like you are impersonating an idiot on purpose.
its not even about losing, its about realizing you did a mistake, you can win and improve, im telling you that playing a long and difficult game against players of your level is the best way to improve, i was top 200 in dota 2 which is a team game and 10x harder than wow i think i know better than a bfa boosted rogue how to improve in a game, and that getting stomped by players having individually 10x your teams skill will make you fix one mistake at best
youre basically telling me that bad players should practice against r1 players to get better, but theyre just gonna lose every game on opener and wont ever be able to play a real wow game, theyre never gonna get good, you have no clue = stop quoting me
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Ive played Warcraft 3 in the top 50 for years and I went from 0 to that just playing against player from the top 50. Yes it is a fast way to learn.
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It isn’t easy though, I reached Duelist with a multi glad pally, healer was his off spec though… I’ve always been an above average skilled player with good reflexes, the only reason I’m not trying to push glad is my old pc 
still he got mad a few times with me like “I’ll altf4 now” etc hahaha. Perhaps not because of me directly he gets mad and tilted and of course doesn’t like losing like most of us do.
Now imagine playing with a scrub as a multi-glad and how hard it is. That guy probably won’t have gear as well. It is not an easy job.
true except warcraft is 1v1, and i said in my first post that we’re talking 3v3 and in a team game its completely different
3v3 is a team game but with an extremly large individual impact to the point that youre mostly focused on improving yourself rather than as a team. I dont know your circumstances but just assuming you dont play with the same 2 mates everytime theres no point to focus on improving as a team when it doesnt exist the next day anymore. Arena has a really large individual part especially when pugging.
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Then they learn until they understand why they lost in opener and at some point they won’t. In life in general if you don’t compete wity people making it extra hard for you you aren’t pushed to improve as much zs if you play people worse or same as you in your comfort zone, simply because if they are the same as you nothing they do will teach you. You need better people to teach you stuff, and the better the better.
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you guys can believe whatever you want, there is no point arguing, if you played a real team game you would know
simple example in dota 2 : if i play a 50+ min game on my skill level, i can check replay and see every single mistake i did and fix them all
now i play against 5 smurfs destroying every lane individually, what am i gonna learn? just dont lose your lane 4head?
if u dont understand its not about how hard you get destroyed but how many mistake youll be able to fix then idk, everyone should be able to tell when he did a mistake doesnt matter who he plays against
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I was top 0.1% in the world in LoL prior to me quitting, and I got there through repeated practice against players better than me. Your ability to improve is only defined by your analytic abilities.
If you play on OP’s rating then chances are you might actually get something out of playing vs 2 R1 and a 1400 player, even though you’ll likely lose.
Point is, you’re dealt the hand that you get and you can either try to make the most out of it or whine and get nothing out of it.
no
obviously there are situations in which your teammates actions determine the outcome, the lesson here is just focus on what you could have done to potentially swing the game
better example is fighting games imo as these are just single player skill
at a fighting game you aren’t gonna get good by fighting your mates 12 year old brother at his house and stomping him over and over and over, you are gonna get good by going to tournaments and LANs and fighting good players
You have to be really delusional if you think you can’t win against 2 boosters and a boostee at below gladiator MMR.
Either you are not trying in the first place or you are just too demoralized to play properly to even have a chance.
Let go of your hatred, focus up, try to learn and you’ll be surprised.
In 2’s it might be possible, in 3’s you are up against two rank 1’s.
Except he didn’t say anything about remaining slow, he did mention picking up the pace. Which I believe most people that stick to it eventually will. Reaching goals/thresholds and then move up to players that are a bit better and so forth.
Personally I experienced the later in 2’s this season since it’s the first time we pushed to 2.1 fairly early and then kept on playing.
I have met some high ranked players (multi old glads), and the ones I remember the most the pace was far too fast for my skill level.
You guys act like there are rank 1 player boosting every second game at 2400. Generally you meet boosters like every 10th game and if you are 2400 yourself you can definitly win against that because that one guy that gets boosted often fuc ks up.
At ratings where boostings happen you should be able to survive the opener or you are just too bad to play at this rating. Rank 1 glads dont magically do 100% more dmg or have more buttons to press. They do less mistakes and their setups are generally cleaner but that one boosted guy is their weakness.
Try to improve from it, its definitly possible.
You don’t, because this is NOT Dota, maybe you should learn the difference. People of your skill level wont punish your mistakes very well if at all, players who are a lot better will. Then you learn that you CANNOT do this because if you get caught its over, you will not learn that when you are able to get away with it more often than not.
Yeah, I agree but still it’s 67% of the team. I mean everytime it happened to me we were able to identify the weak link and exploit it without too much trouble. Meanwhile you look at what the 2 R1s try to set up and boom you learn.
Finally common sense !
Yeah he did? He says playing games against your own skill level is the best way to improve.
Playing against players above your skill level produces more mistakes for you to analyse and do something about.
Idk why, but you guys seem to think you instantly lose the match in 10 seconds because it’s a R1 boost team. If that truly is the case, then analyse your opener.
Get the best out of the situation.
are u and ur rogue friend brothers or what? quoting a single sentence just to reply with nonsense u made up, i just explained to u you dont have to instantly lose on your mistake to understand you made one, maybe its your case not mine
Not even. But maybe when someone as limited as you appears, and manages to spit out that much bs in such a short amount of time, people with more than a quarter of a brain unite to fight off the evils of ignorance.
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Good thing to say on wow arena forum.
Imagine being a swimmer, contradicting a footballer about how to play football and then saying “come swim I’ll beat you to show you I’m right about football”.
Sounds very stupid… well that’s you !
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