a casual gamer is one without addons, a non-casual is one with addons
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It depends one can be hardcore raider an M+ and a rank casual at pet battling, or a hardcore PVPār/collector/achievement whĀore ext ext
there is a lot to do besides raids in wow
Casual - plays very few
Hardcore - plays very much
Lots in the middle
a casual player of a game doesnt go to the forum of said game and comments or reads about it. thats why the discussions in this forum are also not representative of the real casual population at all and why blizzard does well in not taking the forum serious at all
I remember a thread about this way back in Vanilla. Back then it sort of boiled down to time played per week, and the discussion mostly revolved around whether you were hardcore with 30h/week or 40h/week or something else.
Because that was really the determining factor back then. There was sort of a linearity between how far you progressed in raiding or PvP and how much time you put into the game each week.
Today the metric seems to have shifted a bit, because now itās entirely possible to do the hardest PvE or PvP content in the game without necessarily investing a lot of time into it.
But itās a silly discussion. ![:yum:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/yum.png?v=6" ":yum:")
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A lot of casual players do arenas, they just donāt push to Gladiator for the most part.
Then you are doing skirmishes
A lot of people mention that Hardcore player makes time for the game and might neglect real life, I do partly agree, but I also think someone who is a hardcore gamer wants to be as highly geared as possible and canāt settle with something lower, those who asks for Curve achievments for Normal raids making it impossible for anyone who donāt have it to get in, they take it just to serious, they kinda have to be nr1 and no less, preferably above nr1
If you like to explore then you are a hardcore explorer. If you like to chat in the Barrens then you are a hardcore chatterā¦ the problem is Blizzard in some odd way wants to make the whole game for everyone at the same time. Instead of giving epic chat quest for hardcore chatters and epic mage tower challenges for hardcore raiders they make generic nut kicking world quest and clap their hands from the majestic work they put into that quest. And when everything is generic, especially content people liked before it got even more streamlined - it stops attracting players, causes frustration and anger among players - and we end up in a spot that the game is in right now.
It can be seen as casuals vs hardcore but it just lack of specialized content and specialized progression and freedom of choice on how you play the game. āFun detectedā meme didnāt pop out of nowhere.
Casual - bunchāa filthy peasant casuls
Hardcore - bunchāa nolife tryhard nerds
Someone with a life
Casual is anyone with less ilvl and completions than me which gives me the right to look down upon them and diminish the value of their opinions.
Hardcore is anyone with more ilvl and completions than me which gives me the right to look down upon them by pretending I have a better life in order for me to not have to adhere to the facts behind their opinions.
Obviously.
Casual is a time based term. IT says nothing about how good you are at something and what you achive. It simply means āi do it, when i have the time for itā. So by that i was a casual since like mop up until now that i stopped playing (btw blizzard, thanks for changing that stupid requirement of having an active sub to write on the forums, i guess? Or am i just experiencing a bug? :> because it has run out by now)
Anyway,
despite only playing like 10-12 hrs per week, i still managed to raid on a pretty high level, when i wanted to and keep my char up to speed.
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I consider myself casual due to my play time and general interest level.
Hardcoreā¦well once a long time ago I did play like that so I know the difference all to well, elitist jerk may be a website but itās an apt term for those at that level as they have very little if any patience for poor play or mistakes just like I did note this was a progress thing not general play.
I also grew to hate that aspect of how I would play the game, so I stopped. I still do all the other things I enjoy but I do them with a lot more calm.
Casual to me is someone who dips their toes in to a game(s) but donāt really play games too much only from time to time and wonāt get too hold on them or invest lots of effort to get all the achievements or 100% completion.
While hardcore people go all in and do exactly the opposite.
I consider my self somewhere in between i like butting effort in games but i donāt care about HC achievements 100% completions or those kind of stuff like games like skyrim i but hundreds of hours in to that game never completed it i just liked the world.
I would say most games i never complete actually while still i can but in to them sometimes hundreds of hours.
Super casual, donāt wear pyjamas, I rock out with myā¦ Well you get my jist.
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Semi-hardcore = Full heroic clears / 2000+ CR in any bracket of PvP.
Nolife = Mythic full clears / 2400+ in any bracket.
Hardcore is somewhere betweem semi-hardcore and nolife
Considering most players donāt ever do non-queueable content anyone who raids above lfr and does even a mythic0 is above casual.
I agree with you all in a lot of points.
In my opinion there is no a clear line to draw between the two types of players. There is a lot of gray area.
For example if somebody spends 8 hrs a day hunting leveling and selling pets, is he a casual or hardcore, content that player do is not hard, and yet he is not taking it that lightly, same goes with guys that make raids every day and wage war with opposite faction, just for fun of it, yet they spend a lot of hours doing that.
And from what I saw in this post a lot of people think like me, and that kinda lines up with my experience in other games, but in other games there is no so much of a hate for specific type of players like there is in WoW.
Or maybe is just youtubers and streamers that hate ācasualā part of community that much, and rest of us are just fine with whatever you do with your time in wow.