well wow had 10$ the sub amount now is almost the same for one month so is more expensive the FF then wow sub
I agree with the point above but this, is not entirely true. TBC was good but phasing made it really time-gated, on top of that level boosts and layering made it way too easy to reach endgame.
If we had SSC+TK during phase 1 I think PvE would be a lot more interesting.
It was well known that it will be a horde domination beforehand and it was always so in private servers too. So instead of milking money from their “slaves” Bobby could use the idea of “somechanges” to actually help the game and make factions a bit more balanced.
If Blizzard did balance racials a bit and implemented them with prepatch, then factions could stay balanced. It is way too late now, rerollers already rerolled and joined the metaslave train.
But they can STILL fix it, but of course they won’t. There is absolute 0% of a chance that this will happen so just take it as my imagination: If they changed alliance racials right now and made them really, really OP in pve and also good in pvp. I mean really OP. Like giving humans a 5% increased damage, gnomes an extra 10% spell crit chance, night elves a 15% increased crit damage etc. All the metaslaves will start rerolling alliance and in 2 weeks it will come back to 50/50, I can assure you. Then at that point, Blizzard removes all racials from the game and change them with cosmetic stuff instead.(of course without telling anyone earlier, keep it as a top secret within the dev team)
I know its dramatic and a lot of QQ would happen, but its a super late operation for a dying game. But would they do anything unless they make quick cash out of it?
Of course not. It’s Bobby. The only thing he cares about in the world is yoinking money and making himself rich. So there is the end of story for Blizzard.
Get out of this game and get freed from your slavery. You can’t save wow or blizzard, its way too corrupted to ever work again.
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Having a hard time getting into FF14 for the moment tbh.
I’m not a huge fan of Asian game esthetics maybe that’s why.
Gonna keep trying tho cause too many people are saying good things about the game.
Some are saying they’re getting totally absorbed by the game like we all did when we played our first MMOs.
This is the feeling many of us have been chasing for years.
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At this point I’d even rather throw money at a cash shop game than at the incompetent crooks at Blizz.
At least Square Enix doesn’t bait and switch, lie, deceive nor piss on their own product for easy profit as far as I can tell.
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The loading screen is not even a bad thing when you look at wow it still can’t handle 100 people in same area without the whole place lagging and running like a bag of rubbish. The FF loading screen takes about 1.5 seconds to load in
The zones are smaller but every zone is packed with players looks phenomenal and absolutely no lag there is no mob tagging or ore stealing and have random events that you can work together with random people it’s a much better system.
Don’t get me wrong there is some things wow gets better like real Id the chat is cleaner to use and the map is not weird and confusing to use for new players but imo the positives of FF outweigh their negatives right now.
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You have no idea what are you talking about. WoW shop is much more toxic than FF shop only because of WoW token itself.
You cant transfrer irl currency to ingame currency in FF(at least I dont know how or where it would be possible) and buy boosts, skins or gear from ingame content from other players for bought currency.
Weapons wont give you any edge, they are skins. Mounts are in probably every MMO shop. Armor skins from shop are mostly ugly AF with few decent ones, you can get much better skins by playing the game. You dont have to pay for trasmog - you can have 99 transmog crystals for about 20k ingame currency on AH (I have 650k at lvl 50 just trying the game without grinding any currency). Every color can be also bought on AH, however some of them may be quite expensive. But if you buy it from shop its untradeable. Unlike WoW Token all things except story/level skip are just pure cosmetics or very small shortcuts to something and many of them are straight ugly cosmetics compared to ingame stuff… Meanwhile in WoW you can literaly buy 2100 rating or M+/M raid gear indirectly by exchanging money for gold and gold for services of tryhards. WoW is much more pay to win.
I was not hooked up on game so much from the end of Pandaria.
And I am mostly PvP player in WoW which is lacking in FF from what I heard. Did not try it yet, but I can bet after playing whole SL as unranked player with 200 ilvl against 226 ilvl players or TBC arena with 65 normal dung blues I will love it compared to WoW.
At least everybody is even and I will not be punching bag on default because of some nolifers gear. Screw balance, I dont play PvP for competition or rating or gear but always played it just for fun. After Panda and WoD PvP gearing in WoW is dog++++ . SL PvP for unranked player is nightmare and in TBC PvP is more fun(for casual) but grinding PvP blues is just not worth the time(for me these days at least, I could survive TBC PvP grind when I was 15).
Retail WoW is like doing 12h shifts in factory, everything but fun in every department I tried. And I loved that game for 13+ years.
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Wow now is around 13 dollars as far as I know. And that includes a cash shop and tons of MTX that AoC doesn’t seem to have.
Mind you, I’m not very interested in AoC for other reasons (the class system seems way too convoluted, unavoidable WPvP, etc), but ppl got to get out of the F2P mindset and realize that you’re supposed to pay for the games you play
Yes I must admit the zone where I have been left my toon is full of players and in the city I swer I never saw so many player in one place ever period maybe in eve online but is another story there, but to have no stack for few sec or drop frame or lag was incredible I could it belive that game can handle so many players in one place is scary and I try understand what Ff did to make have so much player per zone and zero lag .
I didn’t even say AoC have that sorry I was referring the comparison between wow price sub and FF which is a bit low for wow ,and higher for FF like 14 dollars per mounth and wow is now 9.99$ per mounth.
Bro I have to admit the pvp side is so down road to me on SL. Just because gear gap and to farm the gear to be just average to hold yourself os insane long to not say to get next lvl gear need do rank arena and is a s show .I enter and I meet titans who put down 3 of us in one second … the game and class now have some spec which literally one shoot lol ilvl players it happen to full gear but imagine how is for new players or who start now to enter on arena is a nightmare. I always say look the gear for ovp should not have such a gear gap and the gap be made by the skill of the player but now the pro players have 50 ilvl above you which is omg allot plus the skill gap now try survive this 2 things. Or try to improve . It seams for me the game is made now to give satisfaction to the boosters and rank one 10% and the rest of 90% Is like a meat gun .
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Quality is worth paying for. Hell, I’d pay $20/month for a working TBCC and for Blizzard to care even one bit… it’s pocket change.
10timesOK.
The only thing that keeps me from playing ff14 over wow is the (pretty much) non existence of pvp in ff14, otherwise everything is top notch. Getting Lineage2 flashbacks from the weeb graphics.
I started ffziv last summer.
Reached the beginning of last expansion than took a break fot shadowlands and tbc.
Last week i got 14 days free to play ffxiv.
Im done with wow, be it retail or tbc.
Even tough fluidity and pvp in ffxiv isnt high wow standard, the rest in the xgame its just more relaxing, fun, surprising.
My advice for people who want to give it a try, from my personal exp:
-give the game 5-6 hours- force urself to not quit- trust me- most of you will get hooked after a few quests done; the start is the hard part.
-dont rush it like wow- its just more chill and less toxic. Its indeed more about the joirney than 100% endgame.
-old content is relevant to this day, every dungeons and zone.
-pve its just amazing, batle boss personal
Music, amazing details and mechanics.
-story its a bit booring at start but after awhile its so good, feels like a rpg. Story matters from 1-80 and its connected.
-real world theme wheater- raind, day and night cycle, thunders.
-booring rotations at start, once u get more levels the pve rotation its way more interesting and toughtfull than wow.
In its wow state, i also highly recommend give this game a chance, but dont play it like
Wow!
Its a whole new world full of surprises and a healthy game.
By all means isnt perfect, but this imperfect game , blows actual wow put of the water!
Gluck!
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Superfun? while you do 1 2 3 4 5 for those combo and then Using that super Easy Jumping class “Jump forward , Jump back " all the time. Then we have too many Boring cinematics where we have that useless Androgynous Elf, useless in the plot and he Just talk all the time stealing the scene. Everything that happen in ff14 It make you get angry. Oh and what about those boss that have " An reference name?” Like the One called "Sephiroth " but clearly he isn’t Sephiroth. Final fantasy 14 have nothing of Final Fantasy Series , but Hey , the fan get super Hyped when they Just read an Simple name of an boss like “Sephiroth” . And what about music ? Total horrible and common. And for last we wanna talk about the community where Is Total Toxic? Those "religious fan " that they don’t accept critic and for them It s an perfect game. Honestly i Would prefer to play that old game called “Silk Road” mmo like Metin2 but with Chinese and Grece Mythilogy
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You are missing the most important thing. The game has to be good. If it’s not the content creators will rip it a new one.
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Dunno about dragoon wich u tested.
Im
Playing a bard and the pve rotation its so complex at higher levels.
I have 3 stances-each stance brings somth to the table.
-single target burst
-aoe focused
-utility for group.
Every stance has powerull abilities wich can be used only under special met conditions- not just mindlesy pressing 2 buttons to do high burst rotation.
Some abilities do other things depending on stance used and condition of the fight.
To each his own, but the pve rotation takes more iq to play than wow.
I agree, dont know about every class- like wow perhaps some are dumber some are rly high skill ceiling.
As a comparation i played fire mage in nathria and ww monk.
Fire mage- dumb as fk to play.
Ww more complex but still way less complex than my ffxiv bard. Like -50% less complex…
If its not the game for you, its fine, hope wow gets better or u find another game that u like!
Gluck man!
I was an 58 dragoon and still my rotation were 1 2 3 4 and Just my guild mate telling me "you are Just Low level , you Need to be higher level "
Watched zack rawr streams and i thought the Ui & combat looks awful.
His streams made me not want to try out the game even more than before.
WoW has that sentimental hold over people, but blizzard constantly failing their customers would even wake sleeping beauty up from there hold.