I reported one bot 120 times and he was on the same place 1 week later with right click report and ticket. We also opened tickets and reports the rest of the alliance guilds also are got happy about what they are doing and reported them. Lets see now with the video etc and when other people (cheaters )will start to do it how this will end .
Yea players from few guild did both open tickets and send the info to hacks@blizzard.com
If anything Blizzard had proven over the years that they have 0 tolerance for Exploiting Bosses and i hope they will handle this case properly. Even more its about World Boss.
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No, I donāt even have any character on Razorgore. I have however been up on that ledge.
As long as they are moving down before engaging Kazzak/other players this has nothing to do with boss exploits. The only thing any of them may recieve a warning for is to be in a location Blizzard doesnāt want anyone to be in. Nothing else will happen, and nothing else should happen.
haha sure . then you can use it also ā¦ sorry maybe you already using it 
I canāt agree with that Richdude. If i need to compere it again to the Arthas in WOTLK the grenade was part of any decent rogue rotation and there was room to argue if it was intentional or not + was on normal if remember right, with other words no one cares. They still ban the hole guild.
This from other hand is Pure 100% Intentional exploit with out any doubt and on top of that is at World Boss, they get the kill with big unfair advantage vs other guilds. I have no idea why this is so confusing for you but I doubt any serious player will have problems to understand the difference. Ofc they will and should give them 1-3 days break and warning. Iām sure they are many competent ppl who work in Blizzard who understand the Exploit.
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Except itās not a world boss. They jump down and give you a perfect opportunity to kill them before engaging the boss. Thatās a huge difference. What they are doing in this video is comparable to what happens in most AV games and what is done by most alliance players doing their onyxia attunement.
Whatās the point of a warning if you also suspend them? Wouldnāt a suspension work as a warning?
Iām still interested in knowing what the rest of your guild were doing though. Going off solo did alot more harm to your chances of killing Kazzak than any alliance action in that video.
Thatās the thing friend a single mage, warlock etc can kill all they summoner alts before they can summon the raid if they donāt use the exploit. When it comes to world boss like Kazzak its all about speed. The simple difference between summoning ur raid in peace or under fire is huge!!! Thatās just one of example, they could use this in many other ways to get advantage. At the end of the day They are out side the map, unreachable by anyone that can hurt them.
They lost at least 2 Azuregos this way coz we mange to kill they 20lvl summoning alts in time. Coz they canāt exploit there, yes it is that simple.
Yes short ban is normally warning for the ppl to stop after all thatās the point of all this. However there have been some perma bans for full guilds in the past. Like the guild that use terrain exploit to far Cāthun in AQ skiping the trash. I just hope its gonna be short one coz it will be shame to lost them the game is more fun with them, even tho is more serious exploit coz they donāt only gain loot but also hurt other Guilds (world boss)
I can understand why you are trying to def them if you use the same exploit or if you are part of the Goons or Smile, if you are not only thing i can think of is that you must be a troll. If you think there is nothing to gain doing this exploit just jump down and donāt do it may be? 
In any case this is not private server and i think Blizzard will take proper action to give them a warning so they can stop.
There are similar safe spots near Azuregos aswell. I wish them good luck finding one of them.
I really donāt care if they get away with it or a not, it wonāt affect me. I have been summoned to the spot on a couple of occations, but from what I have heard we have moved to another spot (not for the first time). I have both āwonā and ālostā Kazzak when being summoned there, but I suppose the hordes on my server are more eager to fight for the boss kill than to mass submit false reports. I suggest you step up your game next time, it will have a much higher chance of success than what you have been trying.
Please let us know when you know the result.
Give us proff pls. As far as i know there is no way to go out side the map at Azuregos for safe summoning spot.
They started doing this after they lost 3-4 Kazzaks in row. That speak enough for how effective this exploit is.
Will do i canāt w8 my self. Fun stuff.
They are not outside the map. They are on a cliff that is difficult to get up. The edge of the map is much, much higher up.
Itās only effective since you lose your heads because of it.
Is there any footage that shows how to get to either of these locations legitimately?
Seems like it would save alot of back and forth that is happening here.
Just a suggestion if no evidence comes, place a bounty on the players camping the hill (how others get up there is not your problem), once they have done the deed just sit and watch how they get back up there, might be tricky to find the hitman but iām sure there is one out there.
you can not get then so easy out of them . they have there pack of low lvl chars summoners and lvl 1-2 alts . So if you miss one summoner and 2 alts that not logged for the boss ā¦ tata they will summ the rest of the cheaters again there.
There are 2-3 videos how to get there that I found but all of them shows how you need to get somekind out of the map in order to get there . So they will not provide anything for sure because they also know that is not that terrain abuse and this is not wsg or av there you need to just ones or 2 to get to some tricky spots it is competitions for world boss against entire server . Horde +alliance so they are abusing the terrain with purpose and putting alts and summoners there also . Pretty much at least 1 month suspension .
I canāt take sides because obviously there is a lot unseen but if I was called out as a cheater and Iām claiming Iām not, Iām gonna back that up with evidence as a matter of integrity, not just for myself but my guild too.
You have the perks of a PvP realm so a Classic problem has a Classic solution in a way, Iād hire some Horde rogues, sit on the hill and camp it, only problem here is that you have to abuse to get up. Yet if they claim you can get up there legitimately is it truly abuse or just a shortcut? In my experience, if you are not abusing a position like this on the map (i.e extensively camping/griefing players) it will be over looked or you will be warned, enough time to gather your own intel on how they get up there hopefully.
With the gates opening in the future it canāt hurt to get a few hordies on the payroll at least 
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and how much should be the payroll as they log in the summoners and the alts only when the boss spawned mostly . I was able to scout only lvl 2 rouge from the ground , you can not see and spot them normally because they are to high .
Whatever is enough incentive I guess, gold, epics, an agreement that your guild will not gank them in the open world.
It helps if there is a time window where you know they will become active for the person(s) who would be doing the hunting, still getting up there seems to be the main issue, rogues can abuse their way up there no problem but the warlocks it seems likely you will see exactly what their doing if you are looking out for them.
Itās just one way in my head I try to work around things, others can possibly think of better methods if they exist, it does seem like you have to take matters in to your own hands to some extent given the lack of assistance or clarity from your reports.
Good luck anyway, hope the fight for Kazzak is fair for all.
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Kreymore in fact this are the 2 of the biggest alliance guilds on our server. They had some kazzak kills before and they can easy organize there packs and get the boss via the normal may. This will tell you a lot what kind of players you are facing searching intentionally terrain abuses in order to have it easy. So they deserve the suspensions just for that fact. They are famous and with their bad reputation and aroganse and as you can see from there comments here they will never learn till blizz punish them hard.
Yea you are right here. Its hard to motivate ppl and tell them to quit AV when they farm honor, if you know the Enemy is untouchable its not fun. But still if they where not doing the exploit we had very good chance to stop them from summoning they 40ppl raid in time and kill Kazzak with our 25ppl raid.
btw as i think about it its not just for Kazzak they get advantage with this exploit but also for Azuregos. Since they summoning alts are untouchable they can log out with they mains in Azshara and donāt worry about Kazzak. They donāt need to split force and put guards in Blasted Land to guard the alts. 
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Nice Zentor you are right I was not thinking about this point but this really give them global unfair advantage
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