So the destro lock casts Fear when you are on it doing your damage, which is bad, so you kick the Fear. Then it can just cast a Chaos Bolt straight after because it is in a different school of magic… so what is the point of kicking a destro lock at all? If you don’t kick the Fear, you will run scared and it will cast a Chaos Bolt anyway. Compare it to a mage, mage casts Polymorph, you kick it, will the mage just stand there and cast a Frostbolt on you for like 15k damage? There is no punishment for destro locks, just lazy gameplay imo.
The point of interrupting a CC is so you can continue to DPS even when the opponent DPS’s, it is not to lock them out of doing anything back to you unless they make the mistake of casting an all-school spell that you interrupt.
Since Fear is on the Shadow school, they wouldn’t be able to cast anything with shadows but play around it with the other schools which is 100% normal and intended.
As a rogue you use one of your other 10 ways of stopping it.
Or run through the lock last second to “line” it lol. Might only work vs lower rated locks though.
You’re a rogue… try that with a feral druid… its feels even worse.
Sure, but the thing is Chaos Bolt does massive damage, it is like a fire mage being immune and can cast Greater Pyroblast whenever, or a frost mage casting Glacial Spike shatter on you. The only way to stop this Chaos Bolt is to waste a stun or waste a Cloak of Shadows 2 min CD for 5 sec immunity… Say a lock has built up 6 soul shards, in comes 3 Chaos Bolts in your face, who do you think wins in damage face to face, 3 Chaos Bolts or 3 Eviscerates??? I’ll be sitting in the Graveyard waiting to play for 30 seconds while this guy runs around nuking my team… My suggestion is lowering the damage of this Chaos Bolt since it cannot be stopped by any normal means… or give it a cooldown like GPie.
Ok, I’m waiting for the 10 ways to stop it, please explain
What else is fair is an Affliction Lock casts Fear, but this locks all its abilities when kicked, can’t do damage, can’t stun with shadowfury… lol wtf is this game?
you can los it or use one of your absurdly overloaded tools to stop casts, its not like he gets precog. cloak is also 5 secounds of godmode where he cant touch you in any way. besides that he should be locked down till dead with no chance at even casting anything. are you RP walking towards him without stealth? As rogue in a 1v1 scenario you should kill the purpleman for free without losing health.
opener - he´ll either wall or dies. if he dies, great. if he walls you vanish.
assuming he is alive - reopen when defensives run out n repeat process. youre not a fury warrior. dont ape your cloak n what not if you dont need it. dont dump your offensives into wall-pact.
If you lose that 1v1 its purely because you played terrible. its an extremely onesided matchup in your favor. as a rogue you dictate any 1v1.
Understanding the game seems hard for the op, i think they must be Rp walking without stealth as you mentioned. op doesnt understand their class at all i clearly see and dont use their toolkit for all the freewin buttons they have.
This is a battleground post, there is no los in bgs it is open terrain. Even if it was in an arena a lock will not stand next to a pillar if he has any iq or rating more then 10. Anyway how am I supposed to kill him if I have to run every time he casts Chaos Bolt? Which is like constantly because Chaos Bolt is always up.
Yeah tell me all the tools I can use to stop casts when I can’t even use a simple kick?
Yes I keep forgetting to cancelaura RP walk, must be why I lose all the time, rogues can stealth? When was this added what expansion?
I like free wins. Give me more please.
Okay I will take your advice on the opener and stuff, thanks!
An Affliction Lock defending Destruction Lock, now that’s laughable
I think that a rogue has more than enough in their skill set to kill a destro, my chaos bolt hits 80-160k but I need 2 shards to do that, I have 5 shards, a may generate 1 or 2 1-1, shadowburn also takes a shard.
Destro are not the tankiest class , and far from the best 1to1,
and most would have to play out there skin to match a evenely geared melee. Wars, Dks ,pallys, and ww just sit on you, no way escaping even with master gate or speed potions.
Look at hunter how did you get on with rapid fire in your face.
Good melee infront of us and were the bees knees, but one to one were a shadow of our former self.
Your gear is a bit low so one you have conquest I dare say they wont hurt as much.
Not all knowledgable heroes wear capes imho…
“If you lose that 1v1 its purely because you played terrible. its an extremely onesided matchup in your favor. as a rogue you dictate any 1v1.” Couldnt agree more on this.
Typicall Skill issue and not exp enough as a rogue which is TOTALLY fine, and thats the reason Blizzard should never take anything serious from someone who literally still has alot to learn about this game.
I’ve Got numerous Rogue friends in my flist that played the game since forever…(old vet here) some of em hardcore pve, some of em multiglads no lifers, and some where just gankers for life.
Even a PVE hardcore exp rogue can give a lock a very bad day just dumping a good “rotation” (yes you heard that right) on you…
Now, experienced rogues?.. hehe i cant man. i wont even type anything else.
thanks for making my nightshift better dk , and ofc you Mr Gódisgrisen!
Havent played retail since a long time, so not sure what changes happend to cc and dr etc.
But outside of kick, u can theoreticaly use:
If talented, shadowdance+cheapshot/garrote
Basicly plenty tools to shut down a caster
Yeah so in which reality is it fair for a spec to bait a kick and get locked in an irrelevant school of magic just to be able to freecast a huge damage spell in someones face? Not only once but 3+ times if it wants? Kick is an ability that should be useful against casters, not rendered obsolete vs a certain spec. An Affliction Lock gets kicked when casting Fear and it can do F* all. Not a single itty bitty piece of damage, just run. Even if things would change and an Affliction Lock can cast Unstable Affliction after getting Fear kicked, it can’t be compared to the annihilation of freecasting Chaos Bolts.
Yeah but Blind/Gouge makes you unable to do damage, both just stand there. Vanish you also do no damage and waste a defensive cooldown when you want to attack. Garrote is not usable by sub anymore… Cheap Shot is OK but will just get trinketed… So in a short fight the only way to stop Chaos Bolts flying is to cloak for 5s, which can easily be countered by Dark Pact or just escaping with Teleport or Gateway.
I see no real arguments to support the unfairness of mindlessly casting a CC just to be able to freecast high damage spells the moment after, all the arguments I hear are “get better”. Useless arguments imo.
So tldr u want 1 skill alone to render a caster completly useless?
Yes attacking an enemie breaks gouge and blind, but it can still be used to interrupt an important cast before it goes of to waste the casters time.
But if u dont want to use ur skills at all then maybe play a different game
Or better, play a warlock urself and fight rogues in a 1v1
Just rotate your CC properly n dont get too excited to use kick, let him fakecast n waste time while you dumpster him. If you´re not confident in your kicks or if he is good at fakecasting just dont risk giving him precog n use other tools as you have tons. You can even use blind as a makeshift interrupt in a 1v1. You can stop the fight whenever you want with vanish n racial which also stops his cast.
The only major missplay you can make is to dum dum your cd´s into his wall+pact, without those he is made of paper so just vanish it. wall is a massive 3 min cd. Destro locks also has no good sustain n affli is also reliant on enemies to heal outside of healthstone. Warlock should be one of the easiest matchups for you, especially destro since they are reliant on ending the fight fast before they run out of defensive cd´s n die in a global.
You can’t 1v1 good Destro Lock in Dragonflight as a Rogue right now. Wait until 10.2 Rogue rework.
outlaw rogue can, can play you like a fiddle and there is nothing you can do about it.
what i do versus warlock is i tank his 2 chaos bolt with a damage reduction and then i interrupt any type of soul shard generation, it give me time to regen and also to continue to attack him while the warlock is force to DR fear me just to charge his soul shard then it result i can line his chaos bolt since he can no longer control me
i don’t know if this can help you to improve your matchup vs warlock destro
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