Last nail to my coffin

Over a decade I loved to do collector aspect of game. Year after year I flew to timeless isle with +20 alts to kill frogs and do pandaria world bosses. Thousands of kills and I managed to grab oondasta and galleon (and rukhmar drom draenor) but continued to farm sha and nalak. Over 7000 rolls on each wb mount blizz decided to buff drop rates. Well, time well spent!

I farmed about 95% of dungeon and raid transmogs from classic to draenor. Each armor type alt over and over. Next expac you can collect any mog on any armor type. Time well spent!

Farmed numerous of reputations over and over again to collect mogs and recipes on alts. Reputations will receive account wide buff next expac. Time well spent!

Too hard kicks to my nuts, literally wasted playtime

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I can’t quite relate to these views, but you are perfectly entitled to them of course!

I think it’s great if they update and make things better for the playerbase. There are horrendous farms I’ve done, including the Love Rocket but I don’t begrudge any improvement they’ve made to systems or drops.

WoW resisted account wide as long as it could and has finally seen sense. It won’t all be available from day 1, but they said they do aim to go back over older expansions with time.

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I think it’s a sensible approach to increase drop chances of old mounts/items and to make more things account wide.

As a player who’s been here since the beginning i’ve done my fair share of farming and long grinds. I did the original insane in the membrane, loremaster and every usueless reputation, and i’ll never forget the long and expensive quest for my felsteed. I enoyed them though, and well if i wasn’t doing them i had nothing else to do anyway, so i don’t see it as wasted time and it does not bother me if things are now easier to get.

The games just got so big now. For us veteran players, we have had the joy of owning items and such for years ahead of others. New players just can’t possibly be expected to farm and grind all the old stuff, there’s just not enough time in anyones day for that!

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I was gearing up in season 2. Have to farm new gear in season 3. Time well spent…

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So let me get this straight, you are upset because reputation farm, which is a plague since TBC, is finally getting adressed? Can’t say that I agree with you, but whatever floats your boat mate.

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OP has about 36 000 mogs account wide, I have 17 000.
Even with the acc wide gain, I cannot see myself catch up anytime soon.

I understand the perspective, it’s the fate of having a niche interest… It would have been for the best to have all the things account wide a great many years ago but it is what it is.

What I wanna say is, only do what you want in an environment intended for entertainment, if you look back at something and view what you did as a waste of time, then likely somewhere along the way you lost your enjoyment and should search for another hobby.

He just can’t accept that other players won’t have to go through the same things as he did. One of envy’s many faces.

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I feel like if your sense of achievement and how you feel playing the game is directly tied to other people then you are def playing wrong!

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So someone who mass murders frogs on 20 alts is now trying to convince us their valuable time has been disrespected?

:dracthyr_hehe_animated:

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Question is, did you have fun?
If you did, I don’t see the issue.

This is another reason why you don’t do content if you don’t enjoy it.

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So now it’s easier to get that stuff, you do know you are not the only person playing or collecting in the game?

These warbands are going to be an absolute boon for collectors so we don’t have to waste those countless fruitless hours in the future.

You made your choices, no point whining with regret now.

OP, I understand your feelings - we live in a society that treats owning a digital token as more important than the richness of the memory of the achievement, or the experience, that the token represents.

It’s a consequence of getting attached to “stuff” and giving material things too much importance. If you enjoyed the process of collecting what you have, there is no problem. But if you feel bad because you don’t have something or because other people can get it more easily than you, then you’re being possessed by your possessions and a slave to “stuff”.

I was in that boat once too. Obsessed with collecting stuff, had plenty of unobtainable things, even an old school mount from early 2005, did a lot of things I didn’t want to do, but felt driven to do them anyway, and drew some satisfaction from owning titles, mounts and skins that most other players didn’t have. Then I had my account deleted because the game had taken over my life. I regret that partially, but it also set me free and showed me how much negative emotion this focus had caused.

When I came back last year, I started with nothing and with no way of getting all those things that meant something to me back. Now I just play for the experience, and unlike in the past, I feel I can just quit again and it wouldn’t be a big deal for me. It makes the game more fun. There are still carrots I chase, but I no longer do mind-numbingly boring activities for something that doesn’t directly impact my daily enjoyment of the game.

The average person lives 4000 weeks (“Four Thousand Weeks” is a good book worth reading), how many of these do you want to spend on re-running old content for a mount or a transmog you’ll never actually use?

I actually did something similar in real life too. A few years ago, right after deleting the account, I decided to “downsize” and de-clutter my life. I donated hundreds of books, games and CDs, gave away a lot of my other stuff, and deliberately opted for more simplicity: fewer things, but with most things I own having a purpose and adding to my life (I still own too many musical instruments, but that’s okay, I’m not an ascetic).

It’s all been good for me, though I realize it’s not for everyone. Still, there is no security in “stuff”, and one day you’ll lose everything anyway. It’s true for the game too: One day WoW will close and everything people spent their time on farming will be gone, so make sure you at least have fun!

Too preachy? Okay, I’ll stop!

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Something similar happened to me. Back in WotlK I was really into this stuff.

But somewhere at Revered with the The Steamwheedle Cartel, about to finish the “Insane in the Membrane” achievement (the original version, not the nerfed out one), I finally cracked.

Since then I care little about collecting stuff. I am so much happier now.

I did not find the courage to finish the rep until 2020. I finally finished “insane in the membrane” just for completions sake.

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Welcome to the club, though I’ve realized a long tima ago that it’s not actualy worth putting much time into farming stuff anymore nowadays because later on you get it way easier. … Only case where that’s not to true is with raid mogs since Legion because the stat squish ruined our ability to solo 2 year old content… then again, if that was still possible, I wouldn’t even raid/M+ today but rather wait until two years later. xD

It is what it is. What are you going to do quit? :rofl:

I’m a collector, but not hardcore enough to do stuff with a multitude of alts. At most just my main + an alt, and a 3rd alt I don’t bother gearing. And the extent I use these alts are for holiday event drops in LFG like the Headless Horseman and Love Rocket… cba running raids and dungeons with them.

It sometimes comes up… it’s not an interest, it’s craving to be unique. To be able to flex about it. In this case, persistence and dedication.

Normally the question is, did the player enjoy the journey? If so, the memory persists.

Let me just put this here:

  1. No one ever said or told you “you have to play for all that”. You chose to.
  2. For a lot of people, their lives in WoW get much easier… And you complain? Because, what? Time you wasted playing a digital program for entertainment purposes with other players worldwide to waste your free time to relax? You literally came here to “waste time for fun”. And you did. So why are you disappointed.
  3. If you quit, goodbye. I won’t miss you (I mean, quite literally. Idk who you even are)