Layers and Character Creation Adjustments on Select Realms

Blizzard will never allow us to openly ask them questions about the cash-grab that is Classic.

Layering is a mask to hide Blizzard’s incompetence.

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why are you trying to kill classic?

blizztard really living up to its name, just a bunch of retards doing stuff they dont understand

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Remember how they initially tried to launch classic with 2 PvP servers for the English region, wth!?!

And now after 7+ months they are like 'we gave people free transfers and it seems like people don’t use this ‘feature’. Pure logic there!

It’s not like the vast majority of guilds already rolled on Gehennas, Golemagg, Firemaw, and Shazzrah the first week. Oh wait…

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It’s Russian server that has ques time like Firemaw.Maybe 5 or more hours at peak time.

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“We’re going to continue that process over the first few weeks until eventually we will collapse down, we promise we will do this, to a single world per realm, no sharding, none of this going forward. We know that needs to happen before we do something like turn on the world bosses for example. When we have Kazzak and Azuregos, there needs to only be ONE Kazzak ever and if the entire server wants to fight over it and kill each other for 5 hours, that’s what they should do. The answer can never be just have a second Kazzak, if we do that it’s not classic.”

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Pyrewood Village needs Layering please add to the list!

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“Spell batching” was also server side on pservers…

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Bots pay subs, bot life matters.

I blame the americans, they cried for layers on their forums and suddenly eu got affected. Blizzard should treat americans and europeans seperately which they already do.

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It’s not drama queen at all. I’ve been supporting Blizzard from the start, and i was very sceptical towards layering but accepted it. But after having seen what it did and how people abused it, i obviously turned against it.

Then there’s the FACT that Blizzard PROMISED US that they would NEVER bring it back, but they still do, that means we can no longer trust anything they say.

The issue could have been avoided from the very start by having a lot more servers at launch, but now that we’re well past that point, if people don’t want to move using free character migration, that’s on their end and they honestly just gotta suck it up.

I play on Golemagg, we also have ques, i choose to not transfer, that’s my own fault.

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Queues on Golemagg were only wednesdays and sundays, so I dont really understand why would you lock the new players out of realm.
Every classic server needs new players as people are quitting every day, it is just nature of the game.
Layers?! Again?! Come on…We were promised this would be one time sollution for start of the servers.
What are you even doing ? 7 dragons ?! Day after they were supposed to spawn? what a hell?! warcraft reforgedd?! 5 realms at the start of the classic while milions of people are waiting ?! I cannot believe this is happening…

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Why don’t bli$$ard ban the thousands of bots? Then the people who actually want to play the game can play it. Layering is a joke. Glad I am not on a realm with it or I’d probably quit.

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layering completely destroyed world buffs, need to be applied cross layer ASAP.

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Probably because the bots pay.

Dire Maul East…??.. 99% of Arcane Crystals come from instances. Exploiting veins in the open world will not have a noticable impact on those. As for Black Lotuses, we need some exploiting to level out the market, which is currently completely starved.

Great idea tbh.

Yes everyone understands that.

But how is it an excuse? Blizzard said they would not reimplement layering.

So now, you think any time the game gets an increase in concurrent players, layering is justified?
Say the game gets more popular because Burning Crusade comes out - the game should have layering again??

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Classic community:
We dont want layering.
We dont want spellbatching.
We dont want leeway.
We have a lag problem in groupfights and/or large groups of players in general.
We have a bot problem, its destroying the economy on all the major servers.

Blizzard:
LeTs GeT lAyErInG bAcK

“We’re going to continue that process over the first few weeks until eventually we will collapse down, we promise we will do this, to a single world per realm, no sharding, none of this going forward. We know that needs to happen before we do something like turn on the world bosses for example. When we have Kazzak and Azuregos, there needs to only be ONE Kazzak ever and if the entire server wants to fight over it and kill each other for 5 hours, that’s what they should do. The answer can never be just have a second Kazzak, if we do that it’s not classic.”

"Each layer has its own independent spawn timers.

So when Kazzak or Azuregos decides to spawn on one layer, it doesn’t affect the other layer at all. This way, a dominant guild wouldn’t kill him, and then layer-hop to kill him again.

The Dragons of Nightmare are also tracked independently on each layer. All four dragons spawn at once on a layer when its time for them to do so."

Is the classic team a collective of overpaid and clueless interns ?

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Imho server sizes we have in Classic were a mistake, they are simply too big and that is why we have to deal with Layering now.

If they capped server population and capped faction population at the very beggining this woulnd’t be the case. Instead they introduced not enough servers that are packed like heck.

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You would still lag if more than 2 raids are on the same screen. There are far more benefits to being on a full busy server than a lowpop server.