complaining about lfg being full of boosters … their ads dont belong in the tool df
mean to sey this pay me for job cerry them end i get pay for job mean i get buy flask food pots theny are heppy i get gold end both side win wrong thet ?
Two sides being happy with a transaction does not absolve it of the effects it has to other people than those two.
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Again, you do not understand the problem. The so called “Journey” exists only if there are no roadblocks at every corner.
Right now instead of smooth highway ride you get hours of never ending traffic jam.
People that do not understand the root of the problem really shouldn’t take a voice in this. You can complain all you want but this is never going to end. Ever. No matter how much blizzard bans these people.
How hard is to understand that? If you want this to be fixed you have to solve a root cause which is super high demand.
That reminds me of famous “let them eat cake”: Let them eat cake - Wikipedia
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Reading this gave me a stroke.
They need to make the punishment really harsh for advertising in the group finder. At present it’s a trivial short term silence.
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It’s not supposed to be a smooth highway ride! It’s supposed to push back and challenge you! We’re playing a video game here, remember?
If by challenge you mean waiting hours to get into group or failing your key miserably multiple times because someone insta leaves after 1 wipe then sure, enjoy your boosting spam, because sure as hell you have no idea what are you talking about.
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That’s exactly what I mean. WoW takes 3 kinds of skill:
- Purely mechanical
- Preperational
- Social
If you’re running around in the PuG world and repeatedly not trying to make friends and signing up with mediocre groups, that’s because you suck at WoW and you need to get better.
And you do not deserve good loot until you do!
With your attitude you just have to come to agreement that LFG will be forever full of spam.
You have still absolutely no idea what are you talking about. You never sit down and tried to understand why this is a problem in first place.
And by the way, I had KSM in every season until i quit in SL after 2 months.
It’s full of spam until it’s moderated.
It’s a problem because people are dishonest. People want the quick way around. If there were cheat codes I’m sure they’d use those, too. People want to exude and brag about all their accomplishments, and nobody ever has to know.
It doesn’t matter how much you try to ban it, people will try to cheat and lie their way through a challenge, even if that challenge is one they chose for themselves by playing a video game.
That’s the truth, whether you like it or not.
The demand is not for seeing content. The demand is for sitting on mounts and displaying achievements that have not been earned legitimately.
It will forever be a problem, and it’s up to Blizzard to enforce their game rules and ban people when they cheat. Advertising on the LFG finder is, according to Blizzard, cheating, so they need to start banning people for it. Simple as that.
Now, in the interest of the social and market aspects of WoW, Blizzard allows you to earn gold and then use that gold to buy services from other players. This makes perfect sense in WoW, and I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it hadn’t been completely corrupted and destroyed by the WoW Token.
And before the WoW Token people bought real life money boosting services.
And by the way, I’m not lumping this in with coaching - coaching is like hiring a teacher and is absolutely fine, though unfortunately coaching has started to become a code word for boosting as well.
Maybe you caught on to the use of the “you” pronoun, but it really refers to anybody reading that post, not you personally.
I don’t care. It’s besides the point.
And that spam is here to stay no matter how moderated it will be.
You still have no idea what are you talking about.
So I repeat again, you do not understand problem at all. Your thesis is completely and utterly missed.
Again, wrong. Yes people will always cheat if there is a way but it has nothing to do with actual problem:
HIGH DEMAND for boosts
So come back once you actually try to figure out why demand is so high and it wasn’t like that in BfA/Legion.
If I can install an addon that moderates it without even using the names of the groups I’m pretty sure Blizzard can, too.
No, it’s a direct response to yours. How do we stop this issue then? Showering people with loot and making everything trivial, throwing everyone into the LFD/LFR stew and remove lockouts? Is that your solution?
You say they want boosts because the game is hard, basically, and I say that that’s exactly right, because they want to pretend they’ve done the hard work when they haven’t.
The problem with designing the game around cheaters is that you break the game. Blizzard did this with the Diablo 3 RMAH and it was a DISASTER.
I understand the problem perfectly well - people want boosts. The question is why do they want boosts. The reason they want boosts is because the game is hard. You said it yourself.
So they want to pay money (let’s be honest, they’re almost all buying WoW tokens for those boosts) to skip the journey and challenge that they originally paid money to get access to so that they can show the world they’ve done it. That’s it. That’s all it is.
And you shouldn’t allow people to just get what they want because there’s demand. That is a straight road to Hell.
This is the direct confirmation you still don’t understand the problem.
You just don’t. You simply don’t understand problem. Every post you make just confirms it.
It’s not “People want boosts”.
What is the problem, then?
Or are you just gonna say “You don’t understand the problem” another 5 billion times while pretending to be constructive?
You say the problems are:
- Gear is scarce. So people will get boosts to get gear. How to make people not buy boosts to get gear? Make sure they get the gear easily. So shower them with loot.
- M+ being harder than ever - so what, nerf it to the ground, then? And M+ scales infinitely, by the way, so if we nerf +15’s to the ground then they’ll just buy boosts for the +25 or whatever instead.
- Getting into groups is indeed difficult, and what they need to learn is how to find and make good groups. They need to learn how to run or join guilds and communities, they need to learn to make friends and ask them to play repeatedly. Buying a boost does indeed make people play with them, but not for long - even with their amazing 226 gear they’ll still suck. How to fix this? Put everyone into groups with everyone else by forcing everyone into a random group finder?
- The vault rewards are just downstream from everything else.
But apparently it’s none of that. Responding to it just results in “you don’t understand”.
yes if you have imagination limited to only one solution then this is indeed only one option. While in reality all you have to do is to provide people a way to steadily upgrade their gear thru various content types including most casual ones so they don’t feel like hitting a wall. First step is to remove vault as it is the worst offender.
So make it properly scaled, It isn’t harder considering previous expansion had way better scaling.
This is a result, not a cause.
Vault should be removed, its absolutely ridiculous for rpg to have a weekly bingo lottery.
So if he is not agree with you it mean that hes is one of them?
maybe he just have different view on this problematic 
There is COOL looking mount for glad
and spider mount
there is locked cool looking mount behind KSM
Now there are people bad at this game but with money in their pocket
and THEY want it just like you want something
it all comes down to blizzard allowing this and locked rewards behind content people can’t do
you will never change this even if you write a personal letter and send it to blizzard
blizzard making money with this
Nothing more nothing less
The game has that. It has more difficulty levels and ways to progress than you can count - and once you’re done with one you can advance to the next, as it’s become easier as a result of you becoming stronger.
However it does overall get tougher and tough relative to your item level the more you climb because it expects you to be getting better at the game.
If you’re not getting better at the game, then that’s that.
But even if you don’t get better, the game will eventually give you upgrades again in the next content patch.
But people don’t want that. People want to be able to tell people that they killed Heroic Sire Denathrius when it was current, and they’ll pay you for the privilege of being able to say that. That’s why they buy the boost.
If the argument is that people can’t make it in because everybody else is getting boosted then that’s
a) Actually false. The +4 and +6 groups and things like that get you started with no problem at all, and if you do well in them some of them start pushing with you, and then you’ll advance and get even better groups.
b) The fault of boosting, meaning it’s a snake eating its own tail. Time to cut the head off!
It’s literally scaled by a percentage.
I know things get more intricate than that when numbers hit certain breakpoints, but suffice to say there are many difficulty levels and there are no problems advancing in them.
Unless you’re really diabolically bad and refuse to get better of course.
It’s both.
I entirely agree on that for completely different reasons, but it’s not the cause of boosting demand.
Now they have all rewards
you play to get it they pay for it