You honestly think there are new players in a 20 year old game? 
Are you seriously suggesting that the casual, non raiding gamers that LFR was designed for in the first place are all clearing Normal first?
And simultaneously arguing that, even though everyone should have apparently cleared normal first, and therefore have no need for anything but Mog, people going in for Mog are somehow the toxic ones?
These 2 statements could not be more self-contradicting… and simultaneously you’re effectively saying that LFR has no reason to exist beyond the mog, because “everyone” clears NHC first.
The more likely truth is that LFR continues to be popular 12 years after it´s introduction specifically because it means that these more casual gamers that can´t or don’t wish to “glue” themselves to a raid schedule also dont have to deal with the same elitist gatekeeping that often keeps them out of organized raiding in the first place (for ex AoTC and 606+ being required to run NHC starting day 2 of the season in every second group, which has been going on since AotC was introduced in MoP, and before that requiring 4,5k+ Gearscore for OG NHC 10 Man ICC when GS was still an addon…), just to see the content.
If you have RaiderIO installed, you can easily see by mouseovering that in most lfr runs there are only a handful of players that have any NHC or higher kills and /or a m+ score above 1k.
There are probably more than many want to believe. Mentor chat is alive and well more oer less 24/7… so if not actual new players, then at least new accounts not being used for boosing advertising that are very good at passing themselves off as actual newbies 
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Thats really good to hear i left the chat as i got so fed up with the booster spam and one player making new accounts just to post vulgar
It still happens from time to time, but both if which regularly get reported and “should” basically be an instant ban for the offending player.
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Generally speaking tmog collecting is an aspect of the game that is time gated. You either have to run old raids/dungeons/farms over many weeks, or spend alot of time to get the items you want.
If your goal is the current tmogs for a class, I think it is reasonable to get pieces to catalyst them, when the alternative is to wait for you to solo lfr in some years, or to go and take the items from other people.
Keep in mind that collecting as an activity is not gated by difficulty, but by time spent over a certain period of time.
A valid observation, though as we’ve seen with multiple subjects that relate to time gating lately, quite problematic. On this particular case, doubly so.
The problem here is that this particular tmog farm causes conflict amongst players or even makes us do odd choices amongst our own characters (thinking of WB gear here).
Running old content (that is time gated by weekly lock outs) doesn’t cause any issues between players.
If let’s say I’m running random HC dung or LFR so I can grab a bunch of Veteran gear, banking and catalysing them as I go. I end up running the content with players that actually need the equipment for upgrades, and holding it back from them doesn’t feel good. That’s a conflict that shouldn’t exist. You can argue that “I’m playing the content thus I deserve to keep the loot I get even if it’s not an upgrade” but that to me feels bad. I feel bad doing it to players, and if I’m on an alt and somebody is hogging veteran or champion gear when I’m still wearing adventurer stuff it pisses me off.
So you can see it’s more problematic than saying “well it’s a time gated thing, it is what it is”. Waiting for content to become irrelevant in order to go farm it, isn’t good game design.
Yeah but there is still a way of getting those sets:
Keep your veteran gear you farm through open world and catalyze the pieces that you want.
Generally I do not feel that this is such a big issue because there are multiple ways to achieve that depending on the kind of player you are and what you are willing to do (wait to farm vs run lfr vs catalyst).
At the end of the day I have no strong feelings on that issue because I think that it is mostly minor inconvenience.
I mean buying the vendor gear on new isle very cheaply for alts and turning to LFR tier seems the best option for this season.
It’s a minor QoL upgrade that will make all sorts of players happy. Tmog farmers have more deterministic way of getting tier set tints, less likely for loot to be yoinked away from somebody who actually could benefit from an upgrade.
Is it going to upgrade the game to the next level? No. But many small QoL together go a log way.
Edit: spelling
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